3 week Switzerland itinerary incl.panoramic trains

  • TMKA
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    24 November 2019 at 22:35:27 #824532

    Hi- I would love to know if you have any improvement on this 3 week itinerary.

    Day 1- Arrive Zurich

    Day 2-4- Lugano

    Day 5 – Lugano to Chur (Bernina Express)

    Day 6 – Chur to Zermatt ( Glacier Express)

    Day 7–8 Zermatt

    Day 8- Zermatt to Montreax

    Day 9- Montreaux

    Day 10- Montreaux to Wengen (Golden Pass)

    Day 11- Day 13- Wengen

    Day 14 Wengen to Lucerne

    Day 15 – Day 17 -Lucerne

    Day 18 – Lucerne to Salzburg, Austria

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    25 November 2019 at 0:26:48 #925578

    Asking a question ‘can you improve on that’ is almost impossible given that there are 1000s of different ways to see Switzerland by train in 18 days.

    The itinerary as listed is perfectly good. I can’t see how it could be ‘improved’

    rockoyster
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    25 November 2019 at 1:50:59 #925579

    If I count correctly you have 8 changes of accommodation in 18 days. If you are comfortable with that then the itinerary looks fine. You will certainly touch on most of the major tourist destinations.

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    25 November 2019 at 6:47:29 #925580

    Hello TMKA,

    I think your itinerary is absolutely do-able, if you’re fine changing accommodation so often, as stated by Rockoyster.

    I believe figuring out travelling times between your planned bases with the below timetable will help you get an idea of how much travelling you’re planning. Make sure you read how the timetable works, as it’s a fabulous tool for planning:
    http://www.myswissalps.com/ti metable

    You will find helpful input of the cities/villages you’re visiting by typing them into the search bar of this page (careful, it’s Montreux!).
    For the panoramic trains please check below links:
    http://www.myswissalps.com/be rninaexpress
    http://www.myswissalps.com/gl acierexpress
    http://www.myswissalps.com/go ldenpass

    Please get back to us anytime for further input and maybe also read the following link, it might be supportive for you to get the best rail pass:
    http://www.myswissalps.com/tr ain/ticketspasses/prac tical/chooserailpass

    Best and enjoy planning your stay here in Switzerland.
    Steph

    TMKA
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    26 November 2019 at 9:15:53 #925581

    Thank you so much for your help. We agree 8 different hotels is quite a bit. Do you have have any suggestions on how we can minimize the hotel changes but see the same sights? We do want to do all the scenic train trips. All the best.

    rockoyster
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    26 November 2019 at 9:50:59 #925582

    If you must do all the “scenic” train trips then I don’t think you have much choice but to keep moving.

    When are you travelling? Some places may be more or less appealing at some times of year.

    If I was to drop anything it would be Montreux and add a day to Zermatt and a day to the Jungfrau Region. But it depends on season.
    http://www.myswissalps.com/be sttimetovisit

    TMKA
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    26 November 2019 at 9:55:25 #925583

    We are planning on going the first 3 weeks in September.

    rockoyster
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    26 November 2019 at 10:02:04 #925584

    That makes it tricky. Montreux is fabulous in September. Follow here (Montreux report to come).

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    26 November 2019 at 10:12:22 #925585

    Hello TMKA,

    As said by Rockoyster you will most probably have to stick to your initial plan to cover all the scenic trains.

    Maybe the "8 day Grand Train Tour of Switzerland from Zurich" is an option for you to consider, as it offers a package covering practically what you’re planning. Alternatively any other rail holiday from below link might be worth looking into.
    http://www.myswissalps.com/ra ilholidays
    http://www.myswissalps.com/ac tivities/scenictrips/t rain

    Best and get back to us anytime for further support.

    Steph

    rockoyster
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    26 November 2019 at 10:17:25 #925586

    Oh Steph, a Viator tour? *palm hits forehead*

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    26 November 2019 at 10:21:04 #925587

    Hi Mate, 🙂

    YES, an entirely organised tour can be very helpful for travellers who for whatever reason don’t have the time (or whatever) to do detailed planning…

    I’m aware that lots of the forum members prefer individual travelling and planning, but this doesn’t apply to everybody!

    As a moderator am here to provide ALL the options I see to a request, keeping back my personal opinion sometimes!

    Hope for your understanding!

    Cheers,
    Steph

    TMKA
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    26 November 2019 at 10:26:20 #925588

    Thank You all. Are we doing too many “scenic trains”?

    TMKA
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    26 November 2019 at 10:29:39 #925589

    Also, we want to visit Yvoire, France which is the reason to visit Montreaux.

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    26 November 2019 at 10:39:11 #925590

    Hello TMKA,

    That’s a tricky question to answer. I tend to say that it’s the scenery which is scenic, not the train, so if you travel by train and cover the areas that appeal to you, you will have more than enough “scenic” train rides, even if they’re not labelled as such!

    Enjoy planning and feel free to get some guidance by checking below links:
    http://www.myswissalps.com/ge ttingstarted
    http://www.myswissalps.com/tr ain/practical/howtotra vel
    http://www.myswissalps.com/wh eretogo

    Best,
    Steph

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    27 November 2019 at 0:37:03 #925591

    Montreux(not Montreaux) is not the best base for Yvoire, as Yvoire is right at the south west end of the country. Also after early September the boat service to Yvoire is weekends only, and even then you can’t reach Yvoire from Montreux by boat so you would have to train to Lausanne and then get the boat.

    The fact that you want to do Yvoire as well everything else on your itinerary is an indicator that maybe you are trying to fit ‘just one too many things’ into your trip. Many people find that after one trip to Switzerland they can’t resist coming back again – so you might consider saving something ‘for next time’

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    27 November 2019 at 0:52:46 #925592

    Yes, personally, I think so

    Try not to focus too hard on the so called ‘scenic’ trains. Nearly all railways in Switzerland are scenic in some way – if you don’t see high mountains you will see other icons of Switzerland such as lakes, rolling pastures, farmsteads, cows etc. – so you will rarely be disappointed with any Swiss train trip.

    Many discussions on this forum are about the ‘classic’ tourist sights of Switzerland and ignore the very many typically Swiss places and regions that are missed by many tourists. With a long trip like yours you have the chance to see some things travellers with less time will miss. I recommend you take advantage of that.

    There are some great places to see away from the Alps, to list just a very few of the possibilities:

    Jura mountains

    The ‘northwestern’ lakes (Bielersee, Lac de Neuchatel) with their vineyards etc

    undulating ‘Swiss plateau’ scenery

    many regional architecture variations (some very classic huge farmsteads in the ‘lowland’ area for example

    Spa towns

    Roman towns

    Castles in the northwestern Swiss area

    etc

    rockoyster
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    27 November 2019 at 1:16:59 #925593

    Sorry Steph. I blame the cabernet sauvignon.

    TMKA
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    29 November 2019 at 21:26:46 #925594

    Thank you again for all of your help. Question:

    1. Based on the above itinerary- do you think we should spend one more day in Montreaux & delete a day in Lucerne? I am wondering if we may get to the point that we have seen enough mountains & would like different scenery.

    Thanks again!!

    rockoyster
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    29 November 2019 at 21:38:48 #925595

    That’s something you’d have to decide for yourself. Some people just can’t get enough cable cars and mountains. I recently spent a week in the Bernese Oberland and never ran out of things to do.

    Anna
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    29 November 2019 at 21:53:06 #925596

    Hi TMKA,

    I would stick to your original plan. If you run out of things to see in Lucerne after 2 days or just want something different, it’s central enough to make day trips to other Swiss cities/regions without travelling too far.

    But it really depends on your itinerary. Would 1 day be enough to cover all the sights you want to see in Montreux? Ditto in Lucerne. If you plan to visit Rigi, Pilatus and Titlis on separate days, 3 days is just about enough to cover them all. Helpful links below!

    Regards,

    Anna

    TMKA
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    29 November 2019 at 22:14:17 #925597

    Well we just want to experience the lakes, mountains, countryside and medieval cities, old towns– cities, museums do not interest us. If that helps & if you have any suggestions, we can change our itinerary in any way.

    Also, If any of you ever visit the NYC area, I will gladly plan a wonderful trip for you. Thanks !! All the best!

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