3 week Switzerland itinerary incl.panoramic trains
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TMKAParticipant31 posts24 November 2019 at 22:35:27 #824532
Hi- I would love to know if you have any improvement on this 3 week itinerary.
Day 1- Arrive Zurich
Day 2-4- Lugano
Day 5 – Lugano to Chur (Bernina Express)
Day 6 – Chur to Zermatt ( Glacier Express)
Day 7–8 Zermatt
Day 8- Zermatt to Montreax
Day 9- Montreaux
Day 10- Montreaux to Wengen (Golden Pass)
Day 11- Day 13- Wengen
Day 14 Wengen to Lucerne
Day 15 – Day 17 -Lucerne
Day 18 – Lucerne to Salzburg, Austria
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Removed userParticipant72625 posts25 November 2019 at 0:26:48 #925578
Asking a question ‘can you improve on that’ is almost impossible given that there are 1000s of different ways to see Switzerland by train in 18 days.
The itinerary as listed is perfectly good. I can’t see how it could be ‘improved’
rockoysterParticipant8889 posts25 November 2019 at 1:50:59 #925579If I count correctly you have 8 changes of accommodation in 18 days. If you are comfortable with that then the itinerary looks fine. You will certainly touch on most of the major tourist destinations.
Removed userParticipant72625 posts25 November 2019 at 6:47:29 #925580Hello TMKA,
I think your itinerary is absolutely do-able, if you’re fine changing accommodation so often, as stated by Rockoyster.
I believe figuring out travelling times between your planned bases with the below timetable will help you get an idea of how much travelling you’re planning. Make sure you read how the timetable works, as it’s a fabulous tool for planning:
– http://www.myswissalps.com/ti metableYou will find helpful input of the cities/villages you’re visiting by typing them into the search bar of this page (careful, it’s Montreux!).
For the panoramic trains please check below links:
– http://www.myswissalps.com/be rninaexpress
– http://www.myswissalps.com/gl acierexpress
– http://www.myswissalps.com/go ldenpassPlease get back to us anytime for further input and maybe also read the following link, it might be supportive for you to get the best rail pass:
– http://www.myswissalps.com/tr ain/ticketspasses/prac tical/chooserailpassBest and enjoy planning your stay here in Switzerland.
StephTMKAParticipant31 posts26 November 2019 at 9:15:53 #925581Thank you so much for your help. We agree 8 different hotels is quite a bit. Do you have have any suggestions on how we can minimize the hotel changes but see the same sights? We do want to do all the scenic train trips. All the best.
rockoysterParticipant8889 posts26 November 2019 at 9:50:59 #925582If you must do all the “scenic” train trips then I don’t think you have much choice but to keep moving.
When are you travelling? Some places may be more or less appealing at some times of year.
If I was to drop anything it would be Montreux and add a day to Zermatt and a day to the Jungfrau Region. But it depends on season.
http://www.myswissalps.com/be sttimetovisitTMKAParticipant31 posts26 November 2019 at 9:55:25 #925583We are planning on going the first 3 weeks in September.
rockoysterParticipant8889 postsRemoved userParticipant72625 posts26 November 2019 at 10:12:22 #925585Hello TMKA,
As said by Rockoyster you will most probably have to stick to your initial plan to cover all the scenic trains.
Maybe the "8 day Grand Train Tour of Switzerland from Zurich" is an option for you to consider, as it offers a package covering practically what you’re planning. Alternatively any other rail holiday from below link might be worth looking into.
– http://www.myswissalps.com/ra ilholidays
– http://www.myswissalps.com/ac tivities/scenictrips/t rainBest and get back to us anytime for further support.
Steph
rockoysterParticipant8889 posts26 November 2019 at 10:17:25 #925586Oh Steph, a Viator tour? *palm hits forehead*
Removed userParticipant72625 posts26 November 2019 at 10:21:04 #925587Hi Mate, 🙂
YES, an entirely organised tour can be very helpful for travellers who for whatever reason don’t have the time (or whatever) to do detailed planning…
I’m aware that lots of the forum members prefer individual travelling and planning, but this doesn’t apply to everybody!
As a moderator am here to provide ALL the options I see to a request, keeping back my personal opinion sometimes!
Hope for your understanding!
Cheers,
StephTMKAParticipant31 posts26 November 2019 at 10:26:20 #925588Thank You all. Are we doing too many “scenic trains”?
TMKAParticipant31 posts26 November 2019 at 10:29:39 #925589Also, we want to visit Yvoire, France which is the reason to visit Montreaux.
Removed userParticipant72625 posts26 November 2019 at 10:39:11 #925590Hello TMKA,
That’s a tricky question to answer. I tend to say that it’s the scenery which is scenic, not the train, so if you travel by train and cover the areas that appeal to you, you will have more than enough “scenic” train rides, even if they’re not labelled as such!
Enjoy planning and feel free to get some guidance by checking below links:
– http://www.myswissalps.com/ge ttingstarted
– http://www.myswissalps.com/tr ain/practical/howtotra vel
– http://www.myswissalps.com/wh eretogoBest,
StephRemoved userParticipant72625 posts27 November 2019 at 0:37:03 #925591Montreux(not Montreaux) is not the best base for Yvoire, as Yvoire is right at the south west end of the country. Also after early September the boat service to Yvoire is weekends only, and even then you can’t reach Yvoire from Montreux by boat so you would have to train to Lausanne and then get the boat.
The fact that you want to do Yvoire as well everything else on your itinerary is an indicator that maybe you are trying to fit ‘just one too many things’ into your trip. Many people find that after one trip to Switzerland they can’t resist coming back again – so you might consider saving something ‘for next time’
Removed userParticipant72625 posts27 November 2019 at 0:52:46 #925592Yes, personally, I think so
Try not to focus too hard on the so called ‘scenic’ trains. Nearly all railways in Switzerland are scenic in some way – if you don’t see high mountains you will see other icons of Switzerland such as lakes, rolling pastures, farmsteads, cows etc. – so you will rarely be disappointed with any Swiss train trip.
Many discussions on this forum are about the ‘classic’ tourist sights of Switzerland and ignore the very many typically Swiss places and regions that are missed by many tourists. With a long trip like yours you have the chance to see some things travellers with less time will miss. I recommend you take advantage of that.
There are some great places to see away from the Alps, to list just a very few of the possibilities:
Jura mountains
The ‘northwestern’ lakes (Bielersee, Lac de Neuchatel) with their vineyards etc
undulating ‘Swiss plateau’ scenery
many regional architecture variations (some very classic huge farmsteads in the ‘lowland’ area for example
Spa towns
Roman towns
Castles in the northwestern Swiss area
etc
rockoysterParticipant8889 posts27 November 2019 at 1:16:59 #925593Sorry Steph. I blame the cabernet sauvignon.
TMKAParticipant31 posts29 November 2019 at 21:26:46 #925594Thank you again for all of your help. Question:
1. Based on the above itinerary- do you think we should spend one more day in Montreaux & delete a day in Lucerne? I am wondering if we may get to the point that we have seen enough mountains & would like different scenery.
Thanks again!!
rockoysterParticipant8889 posts29 November 2019 at 21:38:48 #925595That’s something you’d have to decide for yourself. Some people just can’t get enough cable cars and mountains. I recently spent a week in the Bernese Oberland and never ran out of things to do.
AnnaModerator6382 posts29 November 2019 at 21:53:06 #925596Hi TMKA,
I would stick to your original plan. If you run out of things to see in Lucerne after 2 days or just want something different, it’s central enough to make day trips to other Swiss cities/regions without travelling too far.
But it really depends on your itinerary. Would 1 day be enough to cover all the sights you want to see in Montreux? Ditto in Lucerne. If you plan to visit Rigi, Pilatus and Titlis on separate days, 3 days is just about enough to cover them all. Helpful links below!
- Lucerne: http://www.myswissalps.com/lu cerne
- Montreux: http://www.myswissalps.com/mo ntreux
Regards,
Anna
TMKAParticipant31 posts29 November 2019 at 22:14:17 #925597Well we just want to experience the lakes, mountains, countryside and medieval cities, old towns– cities, museums do not interest us. If that helps & if you have any suggestions, we can change our itinerary in any way.
Also, If any of you ever visit the NYC area, I will gladly plan a wonderful trip for you. Thanks !! All the best!
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