Advice about hiking maps Wengen and Zermatt

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    11 December 2018 at 18:25:05 #819163

    I am travelling to Switzerland to do some walking staying at Wengen and Zermatt. Can anyone recommend the maps I need to cover these areas?

    Thanks

    R

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    Slowpoke
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    11 December 2018 at 20:48:29 #900252

    Hi R-

    Welcome to My Swiss Alps!

    I can recommend a whole lot of maps. Too many. 😉

    Online, or paper?

    Do you want, as I expect, topographic maps?

    This link will give you a good start:

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king

    I like to plan trips with the Swiss Land Office 1:50,000 Wanderkarten, mentioned there. They have the defined hiking trails, die Wanderwege, marked in red.

    For real detail, when hiking in a region with potential for serious accidents, I will sometimes carry the 1:25,000 ( not Wanderkarten).

    There are a few bookstores left here and there in Switzerland, which carry these maps in entirety. Ask at the tourist office in the train station in the big cities. As noted on the page linked above, convenience stores ( Kiosk, Volg, Aperto) usually have maps for the nearby area. In alpine resorts, yhe sporting goods stores often carry them….such as Intersport.

    This link leads to some recommended hikes:

    http://www.schweizmobil.ch/en /wanderland/hiking-in-switzerland.html

    The Swiss Land Office (SwissTopo) is the ultimate map resource:

    shop.swisstopo.admin.c h/en/

    There you can find all the paper maps, online maps, and a free App for your smart phone. Shows altitudes!

    shop.swisstopo.admin.c h/en/products/maps/Swi ssMapMobile_Abo

    This is absolutely the most complete professional map from them, with a great depth of professional cartography tools. Actually, I use it a lot when I am looking at specific places and altitudes:

    map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=swisstopo&lang=e n&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo .pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.swisst opo.swisstlm3d-wanderwege&zoom=6&E=26 36253.33&N=1161783.33

    I have turned on Hiking Trails.

    The color coding is explained here:

    http://www.alpenwild.com/stat icpage/trail-signs-in-the-swiss-alps/

    That should get you started. 😉

    Slowpoke

    pkerr
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    12 December 2018 at 17:42:10 #900253

    Girdham953 – I’m doing the same thing out of the same 2 towns in Aug!

    There is a ton of great stuff here about hiking, where to stay and how to get around. And the best part is that everyone, as you could tell from the post, is very helpful.

    Slowpoke
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    12 December 2018 at 17:50:08 #900254

    Forgot to ask – when are you going?

    Slowpoke

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    12 December 2018 at 21:58:07 #900255

    Wow thanks that’s very helpful.

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    12 December 2018 at 22:00:01 #900256

    Going in June. Hoping it’s a nice time to take advantage of the area.

    Slowpoke
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    12 December 2018 at 22:46:24 #900257

    When in June? It matters. Could be great or impossible at some of the trails near your targets. Altitude really matters in June.

    For example, this outstanding trail (2300 to 2000 meters altitude) rarely opens before June 15th, and is usually a sure thing only in the last week of June or early July:

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king/maennlichen-kleinescheidegg

    Snow hangs on near Tschuggen, where the trail does not get much sun.

    Check the trails on this page…scroll down:

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king

    Or, go to the pages for Zermatt and Wengen, and check out

    “What to do”

    Slowpoke

    PS –

    The Hotel Eiger is now the Eiger Apartments in Wengen. The “times Square” picture was taken from the balcony of one of the rooms.

    dayhikers
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    12 December 2018 at 23:08:56 #900258

    Our hotel in Zermatt had hiking maps and lots of advice. So ask where you are staying. And visit the tourist office.

    Mark
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    12 December 2018 at 23:42:54 #900259

    Hi R

    The hotels in Wengen also have a very user friendly, fairly simple map they all hand out. I believe it was also available at the train station too. It lists and shows on the map about 30-40 hikes with some descriptions on the more popular ones. It also provides the appropriate hiking times for each hike and some elevations as well. I found It’s simple design to be very helpful. The concierge or hotel staff will likely be very helpful as well. Hiking is very popular in Wengen so the hotel staff is usually quite knowledgeable.

    The map available at the hotels in Zermatt I found to be OK but not as good as the one in Wengen. The trails were fairly well marked in Zermatt but again not as good as Wengen. For instance we occasionally would come to a fork on the trail that we had to quess which way to go as they weren’t all marked. This was true on the trail to Zmutt as well as from Riffelalp to Riffelsee. We did find our concierge to be very helpful though.

    I don’t have any personal experience with the local tourist office but I suspect they would be very helpful as well. Mark

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    13 December 2018 at 0:17:22 #900260

    I like the 1:60 000 Kümmerley & Frey walking maps (laminated so good for weather proof)

    http://www.swisstravelcenter. ch/kf_wanderkarten.htm l

    I’ve never got lost using one of these in combination with the signage on the ground

    The Swiss topo 1:50000 walking version is also a good bet. Note that they are all being relaunched with new cartography (for the first time in about 50 years!)

    http://www.swisstopo.admin.ch /en/knowledge-facts/maps-and-more/new-national-maps/hiking-map.html

    Slowpoke
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    13 December 2018 at 0:34:41 #900261

    Hi 1960man-

    Indeed, the 1:50,00 Wanderkarte was what I note to be a good scale, and the red trail lines are nice.

    If Kummerly and Frey at 1:60,000 ( which I have used in the past and now abandoned, because SwissToppo now offers the maps with red-marked trails) ) uses the same data set as Swisstopo, why not go for 1:50,00 and pick up a bit more detail? If they don’t use the Swisstopo data set, is theirs as good? I tend to have faith in the quality of the SwissTopo office and cartographers.

    On the ground, the extra detail of the 1:25,000 ( non -Wanderkarten) has helped me in areas where there are lots of trails, and not so clear topography, because I can use the detail of the buildings to help me.

    For example, near Eriswill, coming over the hill from Wyssachen and Dürrenbühl.

    Slowpoke

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    26 December 2018 at 17:30:54 #900262

    Thank you so much for all the great advice, it’s really helpful. I’ll take a look at all the recommendations.

    X

    Slowpoke
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    26 December 2018 at 19:36:34 #900263

    When are you traveling?

    Slowpoke

    Slowpoke
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    27 December 2018 at 0:42:26 #900264

    Oooops-

    missed your answer before.

    When in June? It’s critical for hiking at higher altitudes.

    Slowpoke

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