Centovalli Express & Regio Lotschberger connection

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Judy52
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Jun 22, 2018 - 2:50 AM

I want to take these trains between Locarno and Thun in September. Is there much advantage to getting the Z (Panoramic) Centovalli train? There’s one at 10.50, but we’d have to change at Domodossola and then again at Brig if we get that one.

The one at 11.50 isn’t panoramic, but after leaving it at Dommodossola we’d be able to go all the way from there to Thun on the Lotschberger. This would just be a bit easier with luggage, so if the panoramic Centovalli isn’t much better than the normal one, I think this is the one we should get.

Lucas
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Jun 22, 2018 - 8:10 AM in reply to Judy52

Hi Judy,

I liked the panoramic train personally: www.myswissalps.com/ce ntovalli. If you take the 10:50 you have a 20 minute connection time in Brig to get on the Lötschberger train which is a nice connection time with luggage.

Find the connection on the timetable, use Kandersteg as a VIA station. https://www.myswissalp s.com/timetable

See some pictures of my trip on the train in March here: https://www.myswissalp s.com/forum/topic/tici no-region-trip-march-31-april-2

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Gunzel
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Jun 22, 2018 - 8:48 AM

I did the same trip with luggage and found it was pretty tight at Dommodossola. There is a short walk between the Centrovalli and main line platforms.

Much of the trip between Brig and Spiez (Thun is a bit further on) will be in tunnel. Quite an experience. One of the world's longest railway tunnels.

But if you would like to see some magnificent scenery, the traditional route via Kandersteg is recommended.

Enjoy your travels.

Judy52
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Jun 22, 2018 - 9:42 AM

Yes, we’re intending to do the Lotschberger Express via Kandersteg. I just really need to know if the Panorama Centovalli train is a lot better than the normal Centovalli.

Lucas
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Jun 22, 2018 - 1:16 PM in reply to Judy52

I've only done the panoramic train and quite enjoyed it. So I can't compare. But it is the same scenery of course. So if the luggage and transfer is a concern for you than you can take the regional train and probably not miss too much. :)

Judy52
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Jun 22, 2018 - 9:03 PM

Thanks Lucas

The trouble is that not many people seem to go on the Centovalli so there aren’t many reviews. We’ll probably take the Panoramic train and put up with changing trains twice, just in case it’s better than the normal train.

Another thing I’m not sure about is whether we can reserve seats on it ahead of time. I’ve read about paying a small supplement once you get on the train, but I’d rather reserve ahead if possible.

Gunzel
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Jun 22, 2018 - 10:09 PM

More information is available at

www.centovalli.ch/

And there is an option to view in English.

I've done the line twice and it is very enjoyable.

Seems most trains beyond Camedo are semi express with only a few local trips stopping all stations.

Enjoy your travels.

Judy52
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Jun 22, 2018 - 10:31 PM

Thanks Gunzel

I’ve looked at that site but there’s nothing about reservations for the train. I don’t want to get to the station and find there are no seats left for the train we want to get, so I think we should reserve seats.

Judy52
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Jun 22, 2018 - 10:36 PM

On the SBB site it says “seat reservation not possible”. So I guess that means it isn’t.

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Jun 23, 2018 - 2:50 AM in reply to Judy52

>> I’ve looked at that site but there’s nothing about reservations for the train. I don’t want to get to the station and find there are no seats left for the train we want to get, so I think we should reserve seats.

Reservations are possible on most, but not all, Centovalli departures. They are possible on the 10:50 panoramic train from Locarno to Domodossola, and can be made on the Centovalli website at a cost of 5,50 Euro. You are a bit early for September reservations, as they are currently only available until 31 August.

Here is the link, and I have included some vocabulary to assist you in completing the transaction:

prenota.vigezzinacento valli.com/

  • Travel document - choose Turistico
  • Nome - first name
  • Cognome - surname
  • Progressivo biglietto - in this field, put Swiss Travel Pass
  • The default is a return journey, so change it to single
  • From - Locarno FFS
  • To - Domodossola

The rest should be easy enough to follow.

At the end, what you get is a prenotazione internazionale - international reservation.

If you get the 10:50 train from Locarno, you arrive in Domodossola at 12:36. If you wanted to, instead of getting another train to Brig, a lot of which is in the Simplon Tunnel, you could get the Swiss PostBus #631 over the Simplon Pass to Brig instead.

This bus leaves Domodossola at 12:50, arriving at Brig at 14:31, and it is a very scenic trip through the mountains. If you are interested, you can read my trip report about it under the heading Saas-Fee to Locarno on the following page:

www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/trip-report-late-august-to-mid-october-2016

I was travelling in the opposite direction.

Alpenrose

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Judy52
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Jun 23, 2018 - 4:23 AM

Thanks for that information - very helpful.

The postbus route sounds interesting but it would make it a long day as I don’t think we’d make the 14.36 Lotschberger from Brig.

Regarding the Lotschberger, do you think I need to reserve seats on a Monday afternoon (24 September)? I’d rather not as then we can be more flexible with which one we get, but if there’s a chance of it being very crowded, maybe I should.

Lucas
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Jun 23, 2018 - 6:32 AM in reply to Judy52

Yes, there is a cash payment on the panoramic train of 1.50 euro or chf. Collected on board.

No need for reservations in late September no.

Judy52
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Jun 23, 2018 - 7:07 AM

Hi Lucas

Alpenrose666 has given me a link to a site where I will eventually be able to reserve seats on the Centovalli Panorama train which I think I will do to be sure to get seats.

My last question pertained to the Lotschberger. I read Alpenrose’s trip report from Sept/Oct 2016 and she mentioned how crowded the Lotschberger train was.

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Jun 24, 2018 - 6:16 AM in reply to Judy52

>> My last question pertained to the Lotschberger. I read Alpenrose’s trip report from Sept/Oct 2016 and she mentioned how crowded the Lotschberger train was.

That crowded train I boarded in Spiez had come from Bern and was heading to Brig, so most of the passengers had boarded before Spiez.

It was mid-morning on a Wednesday, so I don't know what accounted for the crowd. However, a lot of them had got off the train by the time we were about half-way to Brig, so seats then became available.

You will be travelling in the opposite direction, and the timetable for next week is showing low occupancy for the departure time you have chosen from Brig. Anticipated occupancy levels for your travel date won't be available until closer to the time.

If it will set your mind at ease, I would say just go ahead and reserve, as the cost is relatively little. Then that is one thing you no longer have to worry about.

Alpenrose

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