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Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 28, 2021 - 8:28 AM

Hi Everyone

I propose to visit Switzerland in the second half of September.

Below is my proposed itinery.

Day 1 Fly to Zurich. Catch the train to Bern

Day 2 In Bern. Visit the following; Old Town, The Parliament Buildings, Zytalogge Clock Tower, Ogre Fountain Kindlifresserbrunnen, Einstein House, Bern Cathedral & Munsterplattform, Barengraben (Bear Garden), Rosengarten, Hang out by the Aare River.

Day 3 Train to Interlaken and then onto Lauterbrunnen. Book into the hotel and immediately take a trip up to Schilthorn Mountain. First take the cable car to Grütschalp, followed by a train to Murren, cable car to Birg and the summit of the Schilthorn. Return via Stechelberg on the funicular. Catch a bus from Stechelberg to Trummelbach Falls then catch a bus to Lauterbrunnen and the hotel.

Day 4 Take the train to Kleine Scheidegg to catch the cogwheel train Jungfraujoch. Walk around the summit and try and see the Alpine Sensation, the Sphinx Observation Deck, the Ice Palace and the Jungfrau Panorama. Then take the cogwheel train to the station of Eigergletscher ('Eiger Glacier') and then the cable car Eiger Express to Grindelwald. Visit the Glacier Canyon Walk. Then return to Lauterbrunnen by train.

Day 5 Take walk down Wasserweg trail to view a number of water falls. Check with the visitors’ centre to see if there is anything else of interest. Catch a train to Interlaken and book into the hotel.

Day 6 Sightseeing in Interlaken. Take funicular to top of Harder Klum. After this explore the city on foot taking lunch during the walk. In the afternoon take a boat cruise on Lake Brienz.

Day 7 Catch the Golden Pass train from Interlaken Wes to Lausanne. On the way disembark at Montreux. Catch the train to Lausanne. After booking into the hotel go to the Olympic Museum and the stroll along the Ouchy promenade.

Day 8 Sightseeing in Lausanne, the following places, Collection de l’Art Brut, Palais de Rumine, Cathédrale de Lausanne, Walk Escaliers du Marché then Place de la Palud, Wander the old city centre. Gaze at the view from Musée et Jardins Botaniques Cantonaux. If there is time take a cruise on Lake Geneva.

Day 9 Catch the train to Zermatt and stroll the town.

Day 10 Catch the Gornergrat Cog Railway to view the Matterhorn. Get off the train and Rotherboden and walk to Riffelsee.

Day 11 Catch the Glacier Express to St Moritz. Take a stroll around the town and a walk around the lake.

Day 12 Take the gondola to Piz Corvastch. Return to the town and see The Leaning Tower and the Segantini Museum. In the afternoon take the funicular up to Muottas Muragl.

Day 13 Take the Bernina Panoramic Train to Tirano and then the express bus to Lugano. 8-hour trip. Book into the hotel and after stroll along side Lake Lugano.

Day 14 Visit Monte San Salvatore. Then visit the village of Morcote. Return to Lugano and go to Parco Civico and if there is time visit the local “Cattedrale”.

Day 15 Catch the Gotthard Express to Fluelen and then board the ferry to Lucerne. Book into the hotel and then stroll around the shores of Lake Lucerne.

Day 16 Proceed on our trip to Mount Pilatus. Possibly make our way to Gutsch Hotel an old Chateaux.

Day 17 Sightseeing in Lucerne. Go to the Jesuit Church and cross the Chapel Bridge and after make our way to the Dying Lion Monument. Then proceed to Glacier Gardens, the Musegg Wall (Zyt Tower) and go to the restaurant at Manor Department Store. Visit the Spreuer Bridge and then the Nadelwehr.

Day 18 Catch the train to Zurich and fly home..

Please could anyone advise if I have missed a must see.

Kind Regards

William

Shroffchetan
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Apr 28, 2021 - 12:36 PM

Very well thought out itinerary

Mtngirl735
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Apr 28, 2021 - 3:23 PM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,

it sounds like you have a very nice itinerary well thought out!

I would advise spending time in Montreux. It’s gorgeous and so much to see. Chillion Castle is one of the most seen tourist attractions in Switzerland and its right on the lake. You can take the boat over to it from Montruex and walk the promenade and back or take the boat.

Between Montreux and Lausanne are the UNESCO wine vineyards. They have a place you can same all of the wines from the various vineyards.

Inside the casino, on the upper level is the recording studio that Queen owned and now is a museum ... its free.

Montreux is also home the Montreux Jazz festival. Lots of musical history there. It’s where “Smoke on the Water” was written about the old casino catching fire.

Hope this helps!

Debbie

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Ildiko
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Apr 28, 2021 - 5:53 PM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,

congratulations on your itinerary, I guess you've worked a lot on it. I think this is a great itinerary, although you might have planted too much for some of the days.

Interlaken and Lauterbrunnen are not so far from each other, just 20 mins by train. To visit the region you can stay just in one hotel if you prefer not to waste time checking out and checking in.

Be aware that Trummelbach Falls close at 5 pm: www.truemmelbachfaelle.ch/e/information_anreise.html

The Olympic Museum in Lausanne is awesome but Montreux is wonderful too. Debbie's right on that. Ouchy Promenade is wonderful too but I prefer the Promenade of Montreux. You've collected superb the top things in Lausanne. Collection de l’Art Brut is very interesting. If you like art museums, I highly recommend visiting the 'Musée cantonal des Beaux-Arts' at Platform 10: www.mcba.ch/en/.

In my personal opinion, I do not think that St Moritz is a nice town. It has wonderful hiking places for sure, but the town - especially after Zermatt - might be not exactly what you are waiting for. The lake is nice though.

I suggest being flexible on your whole trip, as it can happen that you cannot visit a mountain because of the weather (www.myswissalps.com/weather). Always check the weather forecast 1 day before your mountain trip.

I have some links for you - in case you didn't see them so far. Regarding the cities, towns and some summits (make sure to check all the labels; on the hotels and rental pages you find recommended accommodations):

Bern: www.myswissalps.com/bern
Lausanne: www.myswissalps.com/lausanne
City walking route in Lausanne: www.myswissalps.com/hiking/lausanne
Zermatt: www.myswissalps.com/zermatt
Lucerne: www.myswissalps.com/lucerne
Lucerne city walk route: www.myswissalps.com/hiking/lucerne
Monte San Salvatore: www.myswissalps.com/montesansalvatore
Lugano city walk: www.myswissalps.com/hiking/lugano
Muottas Muragl: www.myswissalps.com/hiking/muottasmuragl-alplanguard/route

About the regions you are visiting:
Bernese Oberland: www.myswissalps.com/berneseoberland
Jungfrau region: www.myswissalps.com/jungfrauregion
Lake Lugano region: www.myswissalps.com/lakelugano
Lake Lucerne region: www.myswissalps.com/lakelucerne

More information on the scenic routes (trains and boats) you've mentioned:
Boat trip on Lake Brienz: www.myswissalps.com/boatlakebrienz
Golden Pass is from Interlaken Ost, not West, have a look at the route here: www.myswissalps.com/goldenpass/gettingthere
You can get your Golden Pass tickets here (seat reservation is optional): www.myswissalps.com/goldenpass/tickets
Glacier Express route: www.myswissalps.com/glacierexpress/gettingthere
Tickets to the Glacier Express (also seat reservation is obligatory): www.myswissalps.com/glacierexpress/tickets
Bernina Express: www.myswissalps.com/berninaexpress/tickets
Bernina Express Tickets (seat reservation is obligatory): www.myswissalps.com/berninaexpress/tickets
Gotthard Panorama Express: www.myswissalps.com/gotthardpanoramaexpress
Gotthard Panorama Express Tickets (seat reservation is obligatory): www.myswissalps.com/gotthardpanoramaexpress/tickets

Also, as you are traveling a lot and visiting many museums I highly recommend you the Swiss Travel Pass: www.myswissalps.com/swisstravelpass

I hope this helps,

Take care,

Ildiko



Ildiko
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Apr 28, 2021 - 5:55 PM in reply to Mtngirl735

Hi Debbie,

wonderful photo and very good summary about Montreux, thank you! :)

Ildiko

Joejax
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Apr 28, 2021 - 6:31 PM in reply to Willdenvally

William,

I find your itinerary very interesting because my wife and I are creating a very similar trip in early September for about 11 days. We will not be going to Bern or Montreux but your trip rotation around Switzerland follows our almost to the tee. We start and end our trip in Zurich but we are not spending the night there. I like your activities in each area or town and I have researched these extensively and I may try to organize the sequence in each town as you did.. I am from the US and I am finally beginning to think that we may be able to make this trip based on the latest news we've read in the last few days. My question to you is assuming that you are getting a Swiss Pass, how far in advance will you buy the pass and how far in advance will you make reservations on the special trains that require reservations?

JOEJAX

Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 28, 2021 - 10:28 PM in reply to Joejax

Hi Everyone

Thank you all for your replies and feedback it is really appreciated.

I think I will be booking hotels, trains etc in the next month or so. However as I am in Australia and we have very strict rules as to who may return or enter the country, I will need to keep an eye on any changes to the regulations.

Regards

William

Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 29, 2021 - 2:01 AM in reply to Ildiko

Hi Ildiko

Thanks so much for taking the trouble to copy all the links and of course your feedback

Are you able to advise which days may be too full?

Regards

William

Rels
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Apr 29, 2021 - 6:03 AM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,

I’m an Aussie too, and hope your trip goes ahead as planned, but at this stage it doesn’t look like our government will be letting us travel anywhere soon, except for the current New Zealand “bubble”, and maybe places like Singapore, Sth Korea, and some Pacific countries.

My husband and I spent 5 weeks in Switzerland in May/June in 2019, and from our experience everywhere is gorgeous! My trip reports and some photos can be found in the following links:

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-day-1-7-zurich-st-gallen-appenzell

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-day-8-14-poschiavo-lugano-in-may

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-day-15-21-locarno-to-montreux

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-day-22-28-montreux-to-wengen

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/final-trip-report-day-29-36-wengen-to-zurich

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-switzerland-mayjune-more-photos

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-switzerland-mayjune-more-photos-2

www.myswissalps.com/forum/topic/trip-report-switzerland-mayjune-more-photos-3

If you do get let out of the country, travel safe, and have a great time!

Regards,

Narelle

Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 29, 2021 - 8:30 AM in reply to Rels

Hi Narelle

Thanks so much for your reply.

I have read your reports which are truly amazing. You have included some valuable information which I will be able to use.

I think you right, I may not get to go this September, maybe will have to go next year.

Regards

William

Ildiko
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Apr 29, 2021 - 9:03 AM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,
Maybe Day 3 is a bit too busy, as the falls close quite early in September but it depends on what time you arrive at Lauterbrunnen.
(Note that Glacier Canyon Walk (Grindelwald) also closes at 6 pm - except Fridays, then at 10 pm, so make sure you arrive there in time.)
Day 7 might be busy too, you can easily spend 2 hours in the Olympic Museum (open until 6 pm). But it depends on how much time you want to spend in Montreux.
That's all. :)
Regarding the bookings, if you haven't read it yet, here you'll find some tips about how to book your holiday: www.myswissalps.com/coronavirus/planning.
Take care,
Ildiko

zweiachere
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Apr 29, 2021 - 5:48 PM in reply to Willdenvally

WOW, I wish I was going also. Take a lot of photos.

Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 29, 2021 - 11:20 PM in reply to Ildiko

Thanks so much Ildiko. I will review those days and perhaps make some changes.

Regards

William

Danielsan
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Apr 29, 2021 - 11:27 PM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,

Thats one busy, but well thought out and researched itinerary. I echo the sentiments of others in that Montreux is worth spending more time in, other than just a transfer point. The promenade there is absolutely beautiful to walk around. Also, the vineyards at Lavaux are supposed to be a sight to see. I only spent one night in Montreux and wish I'd spent more. But that was the itinerary I had set for myself.

Also, I think you may want to spend more time in Zermatt. (Especially once you get there) Seems a shame to just stop there for a night...Just my personal opinion... Also, in case weather is not good, you may have another day to see the Gornergrat.

I also agree that you may just want to stay in Lauterbrunnen (or even Wengen) to avoid unnecessary check-in/out. The ride to Interlaken is only about a half hour. The sights you mention are easily accessible from Wengen. Its also a bit less busy/hectic than both Lauterbrunnen and Interlaken (if that has any bearing). Not to mention it is absolutley beautiful as well.

I was in St Moritz on a Sunday (my two weeks in Switz. were in Sept. also) and it was a ghost town. It was basically a stop between the Bernina and Glacier Expresses. I planned to see Mt. Corvatsch as well, but it was socked in the clouds that morning so unfortunately I missed out on that. Beautiful town, St Moritz, but it was ghostly.

The train to Tirano is a beautiful ride. The bus portion to Lugano is relatively boring for the first hour or so. (Take a nap if you can) but once one hits Lake Como, it is beautiful all the way into Lugano. Very fjord-like. Very scenic.

I hope you are able to travel this year. If not, you have plenty of time to plan for next year. September is a great time of year wether-wise there. I traveled in September and had all my hotel and train reserves booked by the end of March. Had a ball. Hope you do as well. Happy trails.

Danielsan

Willdenvally
Willdenvally
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Apr 29, 2021 - 11:31 PM in reply to Danielsan

Thanks so much Danielsan.

I think I am going to relook at my itinerary and possibly make changes as suggested by Ildiko and yourself.

Regards

William

spaulus69
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Apr 30, 2021 - 3:02 AM in reply to Mtngirl735

Hey Debbie,

I agree with you on one of the main sites to see in Montreux is the Queen exhibit inside the casino, along with the Freddie Mercury statue out at the waterfront.

I see others advertise sites to see in Montreux and they don't usually mention the Queen connection.

I have been to Montreux 3 times and every time I stop by the casino and stop to take a picture with Freddie out at the waterfront.

Hope you have a great trip William!!!

Danielsan
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Apr 30, 2021 - 3:27 AM in reply to Willdenvally

Hi William,

Your welcome. Be careful not to change too much..bear in mind that you may have over a year (if you don't get there this year) to plan things. But the more you look, the more you will find that you want to see. That happened to me. I spent 3 nights in Wengen and had no itinerary what so ever going in. I just let the wether dictate what I did. I wanted to see Grindelwald First, the Schilthorn, and the hike from Grutschalp to Murren. Grindelwald was socked in the clouds the whole time. Mannlichen was in the clouds and no reason to go up there. So I spent the day walking around Wengen taking photos. I did the Grutschalp hike to Murren, but missed the last cable car to Schilthorn by ten minutes. So I took the bus from Stechelberg to Lauterbrunnen and went to Interlaken to go to Harder Kulm. Beautiful. The next day I did the Granny Walk from Mannlichen to Kleine Scheidegg with the Eiger in front of me the whole time. Spectacular. So there is so much to see, and seemingly so little time to squeeze things in. It's hard not to look and research things, but, again, the more you do, the more you want to see....... I hope you do go this year just to avoid this scenario (of finding too much to want to see). Enjoy whenever you do go. (If I did it right, there may be two pics attached taken from Wengen)

Danielsan

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Willdenvally
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Apr 30, 2021 - 6:42 AM in reply to Danielsan

Hi Danielsan

Thanks again for your advice. I have so far just added one day to spend a night in Montreux. Your pic are stunning and makes me eager to go.

Regards

William

Sarahleai
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Apr 30, 2021 - 11:21 PM in reply to Willdenvally

I too very much enjoyed reading your plans and the ensuing comments, pictures, links and advice. I'm planning a shorter trip for December 2022. Thank you for your post and I Iook forward to hearing more after your trip, particularly about Jungfraujoch, Zermatt, Torino and St. Moritz.

spaulus69
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Apr 30, 2021 - 11:48 PM in reply to Sarahleai

Sarahleai,

I have made about 5 trips to Switzerland in the last 4 years. During this pandemic I have been sorting my photos and videos and made some videos and posted on my website. You might find them interesting.

rumble.com/c/European_Travels

Steve

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