Mt Titlis and Jungfrau with Eurail Global Pass

Mt Titlis and Jungfrau with Eurail Global Pass

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Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 3, 2018 - 2:12 PM

Hi,

We are 3 adults and 1 child visiting Swiss in May 1st week. We have an Eurail global pass. Does Swiss travel pass or half fare card helps in reducing the budget further for travel in Jungfrau and Titlis? Is my child entitled for Junior card? Is there any one day Swiss pass for Jungfrau or Titlis? Please help.

macleod
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Jan 4, 2018 - 1:06 AM

Hi ,

We recently brought a Eurail Select pass and we have been looking at various sites to plan our time around Grindelwald and visit Jungfrau - see www.jungfrau.ch . Seems both Eurail and Swiss travel pass only give a 25 % discount . Also found Eurail pass does not seem to be as good value as a Swiss travel pass .-no discount on Postbus ( Grindelwald bus ) or local transport ( in Zurich ) ,on Schilthorn cable car and FIFA museum ( Swiss free for these 2 from 1st Jan 2018 ) .We found Swiss trains website a great help with planning travel . Probably not much help to you , hope others can better inform you .

rockoyster
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Jan 4, 2018 - 1:41 AM in reply to Preethy

Hi Preethy and Welcome to MySwissAlps,

Take a look at www.myswissalps.com/eu railglobalpass and especially the first page of the Validity Map. Titlis from Engelberg and Jungfraujoch from Interlaken Ost you only get 25% discount as Macleod says..

There is no Swiss Day Pass that will help improve the pricing. The Swiss Half-fare Card gets you 50% off both trips but then it costs CHF120.

Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 4, 2018 - 6:04 AM in reply to rockoyster

Thank you so much. Can I get junior travel card for my kid without half fare card? If yes, is there online facility to buy it?

Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 4, 2018 - 6:30 AM in reply to Preethy

Is there any possibility for the kid to travel for free with any kids passes?

Alpenrose666
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Jan 4, 2018 - 6:48 AM in reply to Preethy

>> We have an Eurail global pass ... Is my child entitled for Junior card?

How old is your child? Children under 6 years old do not need a ticket.

The information on the SBB site says:

With the Junior travelcard for CHF 30, children from the age of six up to their 16th birthday can travel on public transport for a whole year, accompanied by a parent with a valid ticket.

www.sbb.ch/en/travelca rds-and-tickets/railpasses/jun ior-travelcard-children-co-travelcard.html

The tricky thing is what consitutes a valid ticket. I have read the Fare Conditions document that is linked from that page, and as far as I can tell, a Eurail Pass does not qualify as a valid ticket for the purposes of entitlement to a Junior travelcard.

This is what the Fare Conditions say.

2.0.009 Der Vater oder/und die Mutter müssen für sich selbst einen gültigen Fahrausweis besitzen.

...

2.0.011 Als Fahrausweise im Sinne der Bestimmungen der Ziffer 2.0.009 gelten:

1. Alle in der Schweiz gültigen Fahrausweise des Direkten Verkehrs (inkl. temporären Aktionen).

2. Alle in der Schweiz gültigen Fahrausweise des internen Verkehrs der Transportunternehmen, sofern diese am Anwendungsbereich gemäss T600.3 beteiligt sind.

3. RIT-CH

4. Offer Switzerland - Swiss Travel System (STS)

5. SCIC-NRT-Fahrausweise (schweizerischer Streckenteil)

6. FIP-Ausweis+ermässigtes Billett

7. FIP-Freifahrschein

  • 2.0.009 says that the father and/or mother must themselves have a valid ticket.
  • 2.0.011 goes on to define what consitutes a valid ticket

German is not my native language, and bureaucratic German is not easy to decipher, but as far as I can make out:

  • #1 refers to tickets/passes valid in Switzerland that are issued by the Direkte Verkehr, a national authority that offers tickets and passes that are valid all over Switzerland, regardless of which Swiss transport companies you need to use to complete a trip.
  • #2 seems to refer to tickets valid in Switzerland that are issued by the various Swiss local transport networks
  • #3 seems to be some sort of package deal or discount arrangement, Switzerland based
  • #4 clearly refers to Swiss Travel System tickets for tourists, such as the Swiss Travel Pass, Swiss Half Fare Card and Swiss Transfer Ticket
  • #5 seems to refer to the Swiss sector of point-to-point tickets for trips that originate in another country
  • #6 and #7 probably relate to tickets/passes for discounted or free travel for railway employees

So it doesn't look good for the Eurail Pass, but I would still ask at a staffed railway station when you arrive in Switzerland, just in case.

Alpenrose

Last modified on Jan 4, 2018 - 6:53 AM by Alpenrose666
rockoyster
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Jan 4, 2018 - 6:56 AM in reply to Alpenrose666

This page www.myswissalps.com/ju niortravelcard says "The parents need to travel with any valid ticket or pass (www.myswissalps.com/tr ain/ticketspasses). Exceptions may apply to regional or international tickets/passes, such as Eurail passes;"

Not very illuminating.

Preethy
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Jan 4, 2018 - 7:45 AM in reply to Alpenrose666

Thank you. What I understood is that the child (5/5/2011) is not eligible for junior travel card with Eurail pass alone. Right?

Alpenrose666
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Jan 4, 2018 - 7:54 AM in reply to Preethy

>> What I understood is that the child (5/5/2011) is not eligible for junior travel card with Eurail pass alone. Right?

Yes, that's how it seems to me, and is consistent with the more limited benefits of a Eurail Pass in Switzerland compared with Switzerland's own offers for tourists, e.g. Swiss Travel Card, Swiss Half Fare Card.

But it never hurts to ask, so, as I mentioned previously, I would enquire at a staffed station when you arrive in Switzerland.

Alpenrose

Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 4, 2018 - 7:58 AM in reply to Alpenrose666

Thank you so much

Arno
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Jan 4, 2018 - 7:09 PM

Hi everyone,

The last time I checked with the SBB (a few years ago), the Junior travelcard could not be used along with Eurail passes. I haven't heard of any changes in the mean time. I will improve our text on www.myswissalps.com/ju niortravelcard.

Last modified on Jan 4, 2018 - 7:09 PM by Arno
rockoyster
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Jan 5, 2018 - 1:53 AM in reply to Arno

But ... www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/junior-travel-card-at-mt-pilatus-and-eurail-pass

Look forward to hearing the result of your enquiries Preethy.

Preethy
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Jan 5, 2018 - 3:40 AM in reply to rockoyster

Hi Preethy. Thank you for your comment. You are entitled to purchase a Junior travelcard of CHF 30.00 for your child (only condition: child is accompanied by a parent with a valid ticket). The Junior travelcard is valid for your journeys to the Jungfraujoch and also to Mount Titlis. Please find the synoptic map here: www.sbb.ch/content/dam /sbb/de/pdf/abos-billette/abonnemente/g a/karte-geltungsbereich-ga-halbtax-stand-dezember2016_d_barrier efrei.pdf. We’re looking forward to welcome you in Switzerland soon. Kind regards, Sandra.

This is the reply I got from SBB FB page.

rockoyster
rockoyster
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Jan 5, 2018 - 4:25 AM in reply to Preethy

Hi Preethy,

Are you only concerned about the Junior Card for your trip to Junfraujoch and Titlis? Does your child get to travel free on regular trains with some kind of Eurail Child Pass (www.eurail.com/en/eura il-passes/pass-benefits/family-discounts)? Just asking for information.

Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 5, 2018 - 4:34 AM in reply to rockoyster

Yes. We are planning Golden rail pass and glacier express apart from Jungfrau and Titlis. So it does get covered in Eurail pass.

rockoyster
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Jan 5, 2018 - 4:40 AM in reply to Preethy

Very good. Have a great trip.

Preethy
Preethy
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Jan 5, 2018 - 7:21 AM in reply to rockoyster

Thank you! 😊

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