Outings from Wengen without pre booking

Hi Wandermann

Thank you for your reply. We have not made plans for inclement weather, probably because we are confident that we shall have beautiful weather for our stay!!

Would you have any suggestions for us, it seems that most activities are outdoor based, I don't think that I have come across anything that would suit poor weather, maybe you could guide us?

I have discovered how organised the Swiss railway system is, I have looked at the timetables for the journey from Zurich to Wengen and was amazed to see that even the platform numbers are listed so far in advance. I shall print the details for our two journeys to & from the airport & I also have the app on my phone so I think that I have covered it all.

Many thanks again

Fleurette

Hello Fleurette,

Excellent advice from Wandermann, as always.

As for train changes, it does sound scary from a distance but is very simple. In addition to knowing which track ("Gleis") you arrive on and where your next train departs from it is helpful to have yourselves and your things gathered and standing by the train exit door as the train is pulling into the station. If you stay seated until the train has stopped and then begin going about collecting your things you may find it difficult to make extremely short connections. But the good news is there is usually another train along in 20 minutes or so.

There IS one small trick you need to know about when you make the change in Interlaken headed to Lauterbrunnen. This train splits in two at a stop about halfway along. One end goes to Lauterbrunnen, the other goes to Grindelwald. Be sure to get on the right end of the train. It is clearly marked on the pavement in front of the train doors but if you have any concerns ask one of the train staff that will be standing there herding people onto the correct end! They do this all day and are very helpful

As for outings and things to do in inclement weather, you may want to download the series of PDFs here www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/tips-about-wengen-and-the-jungfrau-region-by-kim

<<"was amazed to see that even the platform numbers are listed so far in advance. I shall print the details for our two journeys to & from the airport & I also have the app on my phone so I think that I havecovered it all.">>

Nice, isn't it? Often the tracks for connections will be on two sides of the same platform. If you see a suspiciously short connection time, that maybe the explanation. Happens at Thun a lot.

Slowpoke

<<"We are very much looking forward to our holiday although I am a little anxious about our journey from Zurich Airport to Wengen, four changes oftrain seems somewhat daunting! Perhaps someone can reassure me that allwill be well!">>

If that is what it takes..."All will be well!"

To be more serious, you have already begun to learn about using the timetable. Here is an exercise that will help reassure you.

1.- Open the time table from Zürich Airport to Wengen for your appropriate time of day.

Enter the start as Zürich Airport (Flughafen) and the destination as Wengen. Since the route is the same toward the end, you could also enter Lauterbrunnen or Interlaken Ost for a destination, since they are the same from then onwards, but entering "Wengen" gets the whole trip.

Open a few later trips as well the the first four. Look at the schedules. You'll see a pattern. if you miss one train, there will be another one along in 20-30 minutes. But, you won't miss. The whole process is designed to funnel visitors to Interlaken and beyond, so they can spend money. (Only semi-joking....it is a popular destination, and traffic patterns are set up to ease the way.)

2.- While you have it open...expand the stations/stops. You'll see that one train goes to Zürich main station and onward to Bern, while another one at a similar time goes direct to Bern. If you have 4 changes, you probably have picked the route with the least changes.

You should be able to go-

ZFH- Bern- Interlaken Ost -Lauterbrunnen- Wengen.

On some trips you may have to change at Thun or Spiez, (before I.O.) but those are usually set up with same-platform trains.

If you wish t let me know your planned arrival time of day in Zürich Airport, perhaps I can make those changes clearer.

But, there are a lot of people there who will help on every platform. Believe me...they want your business. nd the same people who set up the train platforms for convenience and consistency work on these details as well. And, they all speak Engish. ;-)

Almost forgot-

At I.O the choice of tracks will be tiny. It is a small station...but there are a lot of people changing there. So, don't dawdle.

At Lauterbrunnen there are only 2-3 tracks, and a zillion signs. Very small station. Piece of Cake. There was construction there in June, which might cause you to use the underground passage between tracks. Other wise....walk cross the tracks and platforms. Change trains in 15 seconds....well, mostly. ;-). But, it is easy even if you are jet lagged.

Slowpoke

Hi Fleurette, we are going to Wengen in September and I was interested when you mentioned the app for the trains. Excuse me being very ignorant but what app is that? Thanks, Julie

Hi again

A big thank you to all you kind people who replied to my questions with your wealth of knowledge, greatly appreciated.

Kim11 - I have already downloaded your wonderful document onto my IPad & my phone, you were kind enough to send me the link, it will travel with us on our journey. Thank you for the tips about the trains, feel more at ease now. Hopefully on our return I can post to say how well we did!

Slowpoke - Thank you for your explanation of the timetables, I am sure now that we shall manage fine, having looked at the timetables again I can see the pattern you describe. You asked what time we arrive in Zurich. We leave London Heathrow at 9.30am (UK time) & are due to land in Zurich at 12.20 (Euro time)

Juliek - The app I downloaded is SBB Mobile available from the App Store for IPad/Phone or from Google Play for Android.

Fleurette

<<"You asked what time we arrive in Zurich. We leave London Heathrow at 9.30am (UK time) & are due to land in Zurich at 12.20 (Euro time)">>

You will miss the 1240 and 1243. Probably you'll catch the 1313 with time to spare.

The 1313 has 3 changes to reach Wengen. Bern- 6 minutes, Interlaken Ost, and Lauterbrunnen.

If you miss it, the 1340 from Zürich Airport also has 3 changes.

Bern is a big and busy station. Your tracks are close to one another. 6 minutes is OK.

At Bern, you are better off nearer the center of the train, because the pedestrian tunnel is under the middle of the platforms.

Unlike some stations where the tracks all come to an end (a terminus) where you want to be at the front of the train for speed in changing trains, the pedestrian tunnel runs under the approximate middle of the platforms at Bern.

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The Bern station map on the SBB website is more than slightly confusing. You need the map in the lower left corner - the small insert. I have tried to link to it. Let's see if it works.[added in edit - it seems to have worked.]

On the main (larger)map all you can see is the West exit with overhead walkway. It is an option, but not what you want. You want the passageway that leads right out to the main hall of the station....under the tracks.

@Juliek: links to various apps can be found on myswissalps.com/ aboutswitzerland/ practical/websites.

Thank you, Slowpoke,

I managed to make sense of the station map with your guidance. Looking forward to next week!

Fleurette

Hi Fleurette,

You haven't got suggestions for less favourable weather conditions yet. You are right in being optmistic about what you can do during your vacation. I have spent over one year of my life in Switzerland during vacations, mostly in the Bernese Oberland, and of course there have been days with bad weather, but I have never had a vacation ruined by bad weather.

But, just in case you have to change plans, a few suggestions:

- the Trümmelbach Falls near Lauterbrunnen are a very good destination on a bad weather day (but wear proper rain clothes, it's fun!)

- the St. Beatus-Höhlen, www.beatushoehlen.ch/i ndex.php?lg=3&sec_id=1&ms=, on the north shore of Lake Thun are wonderful.

- Schloss Thun, www.schlossthun.ch/en/, very nice!

- Rosenlaui Schlucht (=Gorge), www.rosenlauischlucht. ch/en.php. The Postbus ride from Meiringen is a good, and impressive, option to reach this gorge (proper rain clothes are advisable here too)

- the Transport Museum in Luzern (Verkehrshaus) www.verkehrshaus.ch/en. Very, very interesting and nice!

- If you don't mind to travel to Zürich, I suggest the Swiss National Museum, www.nationalmuseum.ch/ e/. It is situated right across the main railway station of Zürich. We were there twice and enjoyed it very much.

Enjoy!

Wandermann