Paris to Venice via Switzerland by train

  • bhagya
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    5 January 2018 at 4:38:05 #813943

    Hi,

    We are planning to catch a train from Paris to Venice via Switzerland ( 3 nights ) so

    we can experience the beautiful scenery. Appreciate if I could have some advice on stopovers in one or two places on the way.

    We are a family of 2 adults and 1 kid of 11. We would love to experience Jungfraujoch and Glacier Express and also appreciate alternative ideas.

    We are on a 3 weeks Europe tour in September 2018, so we will be travelling with Luggage’s and looking for less hassle on accommodations and Trains.

    Day 1 : Paris to Switzerland . Where to stay ? Want s to stay some where close to Jungfraujoch. Is Interlaken the best option ? or any good suggestion ?

    Day 2 : Jungfraujoch

    Day 3 : Wants to stay somewhere where it is easier to catch Glacier Express, Is Zermatt a good option ??

    Day 4 : Glacier Express .

    Day 5 : Travel to Venice. – Wants to stay some where where we can travel to Venice easily , Churr ????

    Thank you in advance!

    Bhagya

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    rockoyster
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    5 January 2018 at 5:13:44 #873610

    Hi bhagya and Welcome to MySwissAlps,

    For a 3 night (or maybe you actually have 4 nights) visit you need to be realistic about what you can achieve.

    I would suggest Paris to Zermatt, Zermatt to St Moritz (Glacier Express), St Moritz to Tirano (Bernina Express) then on to Venice.

    Alternative Paris to Interlaken (or thereabouts eg Lauterbrunnen, Wengen), Interlaken via Lucerne and Andermatt to Zermatt (part of Golden Pass Line, part of Glacier Express) then Zermatt to Venice via Milan.

    Another alternative Interlaken (or thereabouts eg Lauterbrunnen, Wengen), Interlaken to Lucerne, Lucerne to Lugano (Gotthard Panorama Express), Lugano to Venice via Milan.

    Many ways of cutting the cake.

    Use the Swiss Railway Timetable (http://www.myswissalps.com/ti metable) to figure out how long each leg of the trip will take.

    Removed user
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    5 January 2018 at 7:36:57 #873611

    Yes, very busy trip.

    Use the timetable from Rockoyster and plan out your trip to see if that is manageable to you and your family. This perhaps could work as well. Lots of options to play around with on the timetable.

    Day 1- Paris to Interlaken (overnight Interlaken)

    Day 2- Interlaken to Jungfraujoch (overnight Interlaken)

    Day 3- Interlaken to Zermatt (overnight Zermatt)

    Day 4 -Glacier Express to St. Moritz or Chur (overnight Chur or St. Moritz)

    Day 5- Bernina Express to Tirano and on to Venice

    Unfortunately the Glacier Express is not situated near to Jungfraujoch to make combining the two very easy.

    bhagya
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    5 January 2018 at 11:23:22 #873612

    Thanks heaps Rockoyster and Lucas ! I will do some more research on Time Table and decide whether it is possible to do both just Glacier Express. Thanks again!

    Slowpoke
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    7 January 2018 at 2:37:47 #873613

    Hi baghya –

    Everyone has their own preferences, and the Glacier Express is a fantastic trip.

    On the other hand, just my opinion, I’d rather spend the time in the midst of the mountains near the Jungfrau, at my own pace.

    http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfrauregion

    And, time of year is important, especially in the Alps, due to weather and climate considerations. When are you traveling?

    Slowpoke

    bhagya
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    7 January 2018 at 3:16:42 #873614

    Hi Slowpoke,

    Our plan is to arrive Switzerland on 9/23/2018 from Paris and leave on 9/27/2018 to Venice. We haven’t book anything yet so happy to change my itinerary.This is our first time in Switzerland.

    Thanks

    Bhagya

    Slowpoke
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    7 January 2018 at 13:38:31 #873615

    Hi Bhagya –

    <<” on 9/23/2018 from Paris and leave on 9/27/2018 “>>

    Good time of year. I always try to visit Switzerland in September, after the tourists ( mostly) leave, and before Winter makes its appearance, which , in some years, might make its initial forays into the higher altitudes during October.

    I do like tohike, whichmakes some difference, but een without hiking, taking a cableway up from Wengen to Männlichen is rewarding. In 2009, on September 22nd, I took my daughter and then 8 year old granddaughter up to Männlichen and had a nice lunch, and walked from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg:

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king/maennlichen-kleinescheidegg

    That is such an easy walk that it has the nickname “The Grannies’ Walk.”

    Whetehr you take such a walk, or easier or harder ones, you have the pottentila for beatiful sights, as long as the weather cooperates and it is not cloudy and foggy.

    http://www.myswissalps.com/ab outswitzerland/nature

    http://www.myswissalps.com/be sttimetovisit

    Did you see this information about the Glacier Express? n It includes suggestions for doing part of the route….

    http://www.myswissalps.com/gl acierexpress

    It doe take a big chunk of tome, and also time to get to it and from it.

    If you want to check out routes, including the good options suggested by Rockoyster, you will probaly find that, in addition to the time table, this map can be helpful. It is particularly good for travel, if you work on the menus and the under “Points of Interest.” I use “Traffic” a lot, and, for some strange reason, hotels are under Gastronomy. Since some restaurants are also hotels, I check all the boxes.

    Zoom in on the map to see the rail routes clearly, as I have done in this link:

    map.search.ch/?pos=637016,166712&z=32

    Slowpoke

    bhagya
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    15 January 2018 at 23:49:37 #873616

    Thanks a lot for the useful hints.

    I changed my plan as below but still deciding where to stay in Day4.

    Appreciate your ideas about which Town is better to stay in Day4 , Milan , Churr or St Moritz ?

    Day 1- Paris to Zermatt (overnight Zermatt)

    Day2 : Matterhorn (Cable car from Zermatt to Klein Matterhorn or Gornergrat Railway for Matterhorn.

    Day 3 -Glacier Express to St. Moritz or Chur (overnight Chur or St. Moritz)

    Day4: Milan, Churr or St Mortiz ?

    Day 5- Bernina Express to Tirano and then to Venice

    Thanks

    Bhagya

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    16 January 2018 at 2:06:06 #873617

    >> Our plan is to arrive Switzerland on 9/23/2018 … which Town is better to stay in Day4 , Milan , Churr or St Moritz ? Day 3 -Glacier Express to St. Moritz or Chur (overnight Chur or St. Moritz) Day4: Milan, Churr or St Mortiz ? Day 5- Bernina Express to Tirano and then to Venice

    If it were me, I would spend nights 3 and 4 in St Moritz, and continue on the Bernina Express from St Moritz to Tirano on day 5.

    During the intervening day in St Moritz, I would do one or more of the following activities:

    Cable car to Piz Nair

    http://www.engadin.stmoritz.c h/sommer/en/activities /mountain-adventure/mountains/co rviglia-mountain-adventures/

    Train and funicular to Muottas Muragl

    http://www.engadin.stmoritz.c h/sommer/en/activities /mountain-adventure/mountains/mu ottas-muragl-mountain-adventures/

    Train and cable car to the Diavolezza Glacier

    http://www.engadin.stmoritz.c h/sommer/en/activities /mountain-adventure/mountains/di avolezza-mountain-adventures/

    Train to Morteratsch, then walk to view the Morteratsch Glacier

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king/morteratschglacie r

    Walk around the lake in St Moritz

    http://www.myswissalps.com/hi king/lakestmoritz

    PostBus to visit the village of Sils Maria

    You can see some photos of this charming village on the following page, attached to my post of Nov 5, 2016 – 6:00 AM:

    http://www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/trip-report-late-august-to-mid-october-2016

    Covering the cost of mountain transport

    Trains, PostBuses, and St Moritz town buses are covered by the Swiss Travel Pass, but none of the mountain trips are covered. However, if you stay more than one night at a participating hotel, they will give you a pass for free transport on the local railways, buses, cable cars and funiculars. Participating hotels include budget hotels.

    There is more information about the free mountain transport pass here:

    http://www.engadin.stmoritz.c h/sommer/en/bergbahnen -inclusive/

    To find out what you can feasibly do in one day, you can plan your trips with the Swiss Timetable

    http://www.myswissalps.com/ti metable

    This panorama map will help you see where the various places I mentioned are, in relation to each other and to St Moritz town.

    http://www.engadin.stmoritz.c h/files/pdf/2015/Panor amakarte_Sommer_2015.p df

    Alpenrose

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