How to plan Swiss scenic train routes on timetable

How to plan Swiss scenic train routes on timetable

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autumnz
autumnz
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Dec 27, 2017 - 3:38 AM

Can you assist with which trains to take for scenic views. We are traveling (in July) Lucerne to wengen and then later wengen to montreux. I've been using sbb app, but then I've read it may be most direct, not the most scenic. We will also travel Zurich to luzern; montreux to Geneva; other day trips. If a more scenic route is available, great! How do we know which routes to take to.offer best experience?

What suggestions for train line routes to take?

Last modified on Dec 27, 2017 - 3:45 AM by autumnz
rockoyster
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Dec 27, 2017 - 6:28 AM in reply to autumnz

Hello autumnz,

For the most scenic route between Lucerne and Montreux (leaving aside your stop off at Wengen) you should follow the Golden Pass Line (www.myswissalps.com/go ldenpass). For Lucerne to Wengen include via Meiringen. For Wengen to Montreux include via Zweisimmen and look for the trains denoted MOB Panoramic or MOB Belle Epoque.

Between Zurich and Lucerne about a 30 minute, longer than direct, detour going via Arth-Goldhau will give you some nice views of the Zugersee. Montreux to Geneva you just follow the regular route along the shores of Lake Geneva.

Last modified on Dec 27, 2017 - 6:30 AM by rockoyster
autumnz
autumnz
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Dec 27, 2017 - 1:04 PM in reply to rockoyster

Thank you!

So looking at leaving Lucerne (3nts) to wengen (staying 1 week there), we should go via meringue? Does this opinion change if we will be visiting meringue on a day trip to lake brienze?

Then at the end of our week in wengen go to montreux via zweissman?

Also, I have sbb phone app....without clicking every train is there a way to see if route is MOB?

And, what do the different train letters (R, IR, etc) mean?

Last modified on Dec 27, 2017 - 1:09 PM by autumnz
Lucas
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Dec 27, 2017 - 3:52 PM in reply to autumnz

Typically you will travel via Meiringen between Luzern and Wengen. If you want another route you could look at going via Bern and then by Thun - I feel like all routes in Switzerland are quite scenic!

On the App you will need to click on each train to see if it is a MOB Panoramic (this is what you mean my MOB?) or Belle Epoque. Both have panoramic windows, the 2nd option is a heritage style train.

R= regional trains, IR= InterRegional, IC=InterCity.
R trains are slower as they have more stops, IR & IC are faster as they stop less frequently.

autumnz
autumnz
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Dec 27, 2017 - 4:04 PM in reply to Lucas

Very helpful thank you!

rockoyster
rockoyster
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Dec 27, 2017 - 8:35 PM in reply to autumnz

Does this opinion change if we will be visiting meringue on a day trip to lake brienze?

Nope. Don’t miss the Brünig Pass between Lucerne and Meiringen (or Pavlova as we call it in Australia). 🤓

Alpenrose666
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Dec 28, 2017 - 12:51 AM in reply to autumnz

>> Can you assist with which trains to take for scenic views. We are traveling (in July) Lucerne to wengen and then later wengen to montreux.

In July, I would make reservations for all sectors of the Golden Pass, i.e. from Luzern to Interlaken Ost, then for all sectors from Interlaken Ost to Montreux. It's not only a peak season for tourists, but there are also school holidays in the Canton of Bern from early July to early August.

>> We will also travel Zurich to luzern; montreux to Geneva; other day trips. If a more scenic route is available, great! How do we know which routes to take to.offer best experience?

This map shows where the classic panoramc routes are:

www.sbb.ch/content/dam /sbb/de/pdf/bahnhof-services/am-bahnhof/infra_services -uebersicht-karten-uebersicht-sts-panorama-de.pdf

The Wilhelm Tell Express is now called the Gotthard Panorama Express.

>> What suggestions for train line routes to take?

Others have given you good suggestions. I would just like to add that the standard route between Montreux and Genève/Geneva (already mentioned) is also very scenic. This route goes along the beautiful Lac Léman (Lake Geneva) and past the Lavaux vineyard terraces (a UNESCO World Heritage Site).

>> we will be visiting meringue on a day trip to lake brienze?

As you will be in Wengen for a full week, and plan to visit Meiringen, a scenic trip on the PostBus might interest you. As well as the trip from Grindelwald to Meiringen over the Grosse Scheidegg that I mentioned in response to one of your earlier posts, there is also a round trip (full day) from Meiringen over four passes of the central alps.

If you are interested, I have written trip report about it (with photos):

www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/postbus-through-four-passes-of-the-central-alps

I have also attached a map of the route.

If you have time, I can highly recommend a visit to the Frutal Tea Room in Meiringen for meringues! It's open daily from 07:00 to 18:30 and is located at Bahnhofstrasse 18, not far from Meiringen station and PostBus terminus. I have attached a photo of a meringue dessert that I had there!

Alpenrose

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