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Gunzel
Gunzel
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Jul 18, 2018 - 8:10 PM

I've noticed on here a general preference for the "scenic trains" over regular services.

Bearing in mind, there are regular services on the sections covered by the "scenic trains" what are the considered advantages (and disadvantages) of the "scenic trains" over regular services?

Elsewhere, we discussed journeys on "scenic" lines rarely if ever covered or mentioned on here. In my travels, I've noticed some services are heavily patronised by tourists while other, lesser known lines and trains are mostly used by "locals". (I always recall advice at an early university lecture [so many years ago!] "not to rely solely on anecdotal evidence because sometimes/often it is faulty").

I understand all lines covered by the "scenic trains" have regular services that are covered by the Swiss Travel Pass. Does the Swiss Travel Pass cover all scenic trains and are there any additional charges to travel on them?

Lucas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 2:13 PM in reply to Gunzel

Hi Gunzel,

Some good questions!

I think the advantages of the scenic (or panoramic) trains that we note here: https://www.myswissalp s.com/activities/sceni ctrips/train (first 4) are that they allow for direct travel (except for the Golden Pass route and the ferry to train change on the Gotthard Panoramic train).

Another advantage is that they have larger windows and often come with travel commentary. In the case of a train like the Glacier Express you get better food options that can be delivered to your seat.

Disadvantages would be that you can't hop-on and off these trains as you could on regional trains that make more frequent stops. Regional trains also travel a little quicker if one is using the route only for transport from one town to another. And the reservation fee could be another disadvantage.

I would guess other members have their thoughts as well to the pros and cons!

As for the Swiss Travel Pass, it covers the ticket cost for these panoramic trains but reservations for all but the Golden Pass route are mandatory and cost extra no matter what ticket or rail pass you have.

1960man
1960man
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Jul 19, 2018 - 11:34 PM in reply to Gunzel

You may have noticed in various (numerous...all?...) posts from me that whenever people ask about 'scenic' or panoramic' trains I explain that it doesn't really matter as the view is much the same from any Swiss train window.

Peterli
Peterli
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Jul 21, 2018 - 7:01 AM

I love the topic of this thread ! The only trains of any sort that I have been on in recent years have been in the canton of Neuchâtel. But long ago, before my university years, I did most of my travel by train, in second class, and loved every moment. I can remember sliding down the upper part of the window, leaning my arms on the bottom part of the window, and poking out my head and often my camera. One run I'll remember forever was the run from St. Gallen out on the Bodensee-Toggenburg line to Mogelsberg and this was because of the smell of the cows. I've never traveled in a "scenic" nor a "panoramic" train, but even back then the MOB run from Montreux to Zweisimmen and beyond was wonderful in spite of the regular sized windows. So my question to those who are still traveling all over the country by train is as follows: Can a passenger on a "scenic" or "panoramic" train slide down his window and lean out and breathe the air ? My guess is that these trains will be packed with fairly well-off foreigners and so standing up and leaning out a window will not be an option, even if the window does slide down. I suspect that my favourite train would be a personnenzug. No windows open on all the IC trains I see, so I suspect that windows that open are rare. So I'm glad I got to do my Swiss train travel back when. Now I travel by car, and I can roll down any window I choose and can stop almost anywhere. Flexibilty and freedom ! I attach a photo showing the type of coach that I loved.

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rockoyster
rockoyster
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Jul 21, 2018 - 7:35 AM in reply to Peterli

No opening windows on the GEX an BEX but the Gotthard Panorama Express has a photographers carriage with opening windows. Slowpoke will tell you all about it. 😎

Last modified on Jul 21, 2018 - 7:36 AM by rockoyster
1960man
1960man
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Jul 21, 2018 - 11:47 PM in reply to Peterli

Your favourite Green RIC coaches are still running on the Zurich - Basel routes. Some have been refurbished with power operated doors, and repainted with the white livery to match more modern stock, but retain opening windows.

See photo attached of RICs at Liestal on 27 June 2018

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1960man
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Jul 21, 2018 - 11:51 PM in reply to rockoyster

Some of the windows on RhB Allegra units can be opened and also in the 'photographers section' of the Alvra sets now used on the Albula line

Peterli
Peterli
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Jul 22, 2018 - 4:11 AM

Here is a short video I made of an IC on its way from Neuchâtel to Lausanne. These are great for covering greater distances in less time (quick with few stops) but not the way I would recommend to a tourist, unless all you want is a quick glimpse of what the train is passing by. youtu.be/DzA_DBUskBU

Last modified on Jul 22, 2018 - 6:07 AM by Peterli
Peterli
Peterli
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Jul 22, 2018 - 4:20 AM

This is the type of train I like to travel on. Not too fast with windows that open. I made this video two years ago, showing the Sauschwänzle Bahn train leaving Blumberg (Zollhaus) in the Schwarzwald of Southern Germany. Not far from Switzerland ! youtu.be/vfjus3_6NBs

Last modified on Jul 22, 2018 - 4:27 AM by Peterli

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