So where is this Swiss train? Photo quiz

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    Peterli
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    29 April 2020 at 6:59:58 #932319

    Je n’ai aucune idée.

    Arno
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    29 April 2020 at 8:54:34 #932320

    I would guess one of the main (north-south?) routes, near a major junction. I was going to say the BLS network, but then noticed that the letters on the cars are not BLS but BLG, which does not reveal anything probably.

    Peterli
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    29 April 2020 at 9:43:40 #932321

    Back to you, where is it now ? Same locomotive. It certainly does get around.

    gramels
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    29 April 2020 at 11:39:06 #932322

    based on the Gittermasten and the Signal that SBB Cargo engine is on a DB rail, maybe in Basel Bad, the DB tracks of Basel SBB or in real Germany

    Peterli
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    29 April 2020 at 11:44:01 #932323

    You are on the “right track”. This locomotive really does get around and this photo was taken in Germany. But not even close to Basel.

    Removed user
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    29 April 2020 at 22:52:03 #932324

    Your photo looks like Leipzig or Dresden area

    Removed user
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    29 April 2020 at 22:53:12 #932325

    Clue: It’s in a Switzerland

    Removed user
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    29 April 2020 at 22:57:58 #932326

    BLG = BLG Logistics, started life as Bremer Lagerhaus Gesellschaft in 1877

    Peterli
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    30 April 2020 at 1:12:30 #932327

    << Clue: It’s in a Switzerland >> I assumed that your photo was taken somewhere in Switzerland. When I looked at that particular locomotive I was impressed to learn how far from Switzerland it has operated. I am still trying to figure out where your photo was taken. I suspect that it was taken somewhere between Basel and Solothurn, but I will keep looking.

    << Your photo looks like Leipzig or Dresden area >> I assume you picked those two cities because of the dreary look of the surroundings, reminiscent of the old DDR ? But the photo I posted is in the West. I know the city but am trying to find the actual location (coördinates) myself.

    Slowpoke
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    2 May 2020 at 18:50:32 #932328

    Hi Peterli and 1960man –

    Is the power supplied to the catenary the same in Germany and Switzerland? Voltage, AC or DC, frequency if AC?

    Slowpoke

    Anna
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    2 May 2020 at 19:23:30 #932329

    Another clue perhaps?

    Anna

    gramels
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    2 May 2020 at 19:41:47 #932330

    Germany and Switzerland have the same Voltage, just the physical routing of the wire is different, the German one is wider than the Swiss one, so you the engine needs different pantographs.

    Slowpoke
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    2 May 2020 at 20:21:17 #932331

    <<“the German one is wider than the Swiss one, so you the engine needs different pantographs.”>>

    So, does that cargo locomotive have two styles of pantograph on it? At first glance they look the same, although at different heights or extensions. If the livery is symmetrical side to side, the pantographs are at different ends of the locomotive…but, they look the same to me.

    Slowpoke

    gramels
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    2 May 2020 at 20:34:39 #932332

    here is the source of that pic

    http://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschland~ bahnhoefe-f—k~hamburg-harburg/901101/sbb-cargo-international-sbb-gueterlokomotiven-in.html

    I googled for the number of the locomotive.

    the German Pantograph is wider than the Swiss one. A Swiss on German wires does “derail”, a Germon on Swiss wires would damage the wires.

    Slowpoke
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    2 May 2020 at 20:47:59 #932333

    Do we conclude that both pictures were shot in Switzerland? Or, both in Germany?

    Slowpoke

    gramels
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    2 May 2020 at 20:57:14 #932334

    I would say both Germany.

    That lamp is likely former Deutsche Reichsbahn (GDR), the trakcs and the wires as well, and the rock formation could be near Dresden.

    smnaren
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    4 May 2020 at 7:45:19 #932335

    some where near chur

    Slowpoke
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    4 May 2020 at 12:07:45 #932336

    <<“Chur”>>

    Interesting.

    May I ask what the basis is for your nomination?

    Slowpoke

    smnaren
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    4 May 2020 at 13:46:27 #932337

    It look like Swiss Grand Canyon near Chur.

    Sorry i may be wrong 🙁

    Removed user
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    4 May 2020 at 21:55:38 #932338

    Correct. SBB locomotives that operate into Germany or Austria need wider pantographs. At first it was for passenger trains (like the trains Zurich to Munich where the Swiss locomotive runs on Austrian and German tracks as far as Lindau). But when SBB was sectorised SBB Cargo started to use locomotives for freight trains into (and within) Germany

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