Swiss flexi pass 1st versus 2nd class Golden Pass

Swiss flexi pass 1st versus 2nd class Golden Pass

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beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 6, 2017 - 12:41 PM

we are travelling to switzerland (2 adults, 2 children) . i want to ask about the firts class and second class pass. we are intending to buy flex pass for 4 days costing us chf 598 second class. but its v expensive if we choose first class pass. we will go for panoramic train ride for a day. (same day we will be back). does golden pass route using second class pass differ from first class? can we upgrade it to first class pass for a day? can we do it online?

Arno
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Jul 6, 2017 - 1:03 PM

Hi Beenaeem,

The general difference between first and second class is explained here. The views are the same regardless of your seat though. You can buy an upgrade at any staffed train station. Upgrades don't sell out. You'll pay half of the difference between the classes, so an occasional upgrade is relatively affordable.

beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 6, 2017 - 5:29 PM

thanks. we will use panoramic train ride from zweissimen to montreux ( it only runs between that route ). will go from luzern with last leg in montreux and use a regular train ride on way back to luzern. so need to upgrade only (first class) between zweissimen to montreux. will i upgrade at luzern or on zweissimen ? how much would be the cost for adult and for child?

Arno
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Jul 6, 2017 - 6:31 PM in reply to beenaeem

Hi Beenaeem,

You can best buy the upgrade for that leg in Luzern as you won't have time for it in Zweisimmen. The price is CHF 12.50 per adult. The children travel for free if they are younger than 16 and if you order a Swiss Family Card along with your Swiss Travel Pass Flex. Please see here for where to buy: myswissalps.com/ swisstravelpassflex/ price.

If you also want to have a seat reservations you would need to order that separately, for all travelers including the children.

beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 21, 2017 - 8:55 AM in reply to Arno

Hi

As we are buying flexi second class pass i want to ask u smeething. From zwessimen to montreux can we hop on panoramic train with second class pass? does panoramic train ride also have first and second class? Im just thinking why to get into hassle of upgrade if we can hop on panoramic train between zwessimen and montruex (if there is not much difference n we still can enjoy scenic routes)

Lucas
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Jul 21, 2017 - 11:24 AM in reply to beenaeem

Hi Beenaeem,

Yes, you can travel on any part of the Golden Pass route with a 2nd class Swiss Travel Pass Flex. The panoramic trains have both 1st and 2nd class - so you can upgrade if you want or stay in 2nd. I don't think there is a huge difference between the classes - you won't miss out on too much and you still have panoramic windows etc.

If you want to upgrade you can do so with the SBB mobile app - another forum member posted a how-to here.

Lucas

beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 23, 2017 - 6:40 PM

hi

thanks a lot for ur reply. i want to know how to order swiiss family card? children are under 16 and we bought swiss flex pass for 2 adults (4 days) alongwith 2 children under 16. our tickets will be snet to the uk via normal delivery in 6 days.

Lucas
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Jul 24, 2017 - 5:42 AM in reply to beenaeem

Hi beenaeem,

Normally the Swiss Family Cards are ordered at the same time as your Swiss Travel Pass Flex (as they are free). In this case you would need to go into a Swiss railways office once in Switzerland and they will give you the Swiss Family Card when you show them the Swiss Travel Pass Flex.

Lucas

rockoyster
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Jul 24, 2017 - 6:55 AM in reply to beenaeem

Hi beenaeem,

You wrote: Im just thinking why to get into hassle of upgrade if we can hop on panoramic train between zwessimen and montruex . . .

I may be wrong but "hop on" implies you could be planning to travel without reservations on this leg of the journey. Be aware that there are often large tour groups that book out the trains and you may have difficulty getting a seat or more likely getting seats where your family members can all be seated together.

Read about reservations here www.mob.ch/en/reservat ion-procedure

beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 24, 2017 - 9:28 AM in reply to Lucas

Hi lucas

Yes i selected family card in front of kids ticket while booking. now the tickets are being sent by post. We will reach zurich airport n then take a train to zurich hb (nearest station from our hotel) . So from zurich airport before getting on train we can go to ticket office n request for family card so kids can travel free for that journey too . ( as u mentioned family card has to picked from train station) .

And thatnks rockytar. I booked tickets and they will reach me in a week. After that i can go to the link provided put my booking number to book seats for zwessimen to montreux?

rockoyster
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Jul 24, 2017 - 9:45 AM in reply to beenaeem

Hi beenaeem,

You said: I booked tickets and they will reach me in a week. After that i can go to the link provided put my booking number to book seats for zwessimen to montreux?

When you say "booked tickets" do you mean ordered your pass? If you are using a Swiss Travel Pass (Flex) you do not need tickets for the train rides. Seat reservations are completely separate. You don't have to have your pass in order to make reservations - you can and should make reservations as early as possible.

beenaeem
beenaeem
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Jul 24, 2017 - 10:19 AM

Sorry meant ordered a flex pass. And going from luzern to montreux . Catching 11 am train from luzern. That will reach montreux at 16.13 via zwessimen . Do ineed to book whole or just zwesimmen to montreux leg . Link u sent is not in english so cant understand. Any other link for reservation?

rockoyster
rockoyster
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Jul 24, 2017 - 10:25 AM in reply to beenaeem

There is a button on the top right hand corner of the website to select language.

You should only need to make reservations on the Zweisimmen to Montreux section.

rrtantry
rrtantry
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Jul 26, 2017 - 11:05 AM

DEAR,

During August 2nd wek We ll be in Switzerland. Is it OK to wear jeans-shorts (Bermudas) while going up for Mount Rigi , Mt. Pilatus etc or should we have pants and leather jackets ?

Lucas
Lucas
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Jul 26, 2017 - 4:47 PM in reply to rrtantry

Hi rrtantry,

Please start a new thread for new questions. This thread is about the Golden Pass and 1st vs. 2nd class as well as the Swiss Travel Pass Flex.

To quickly answer your question you should probably wear pants and jackets as it can be quite cold at those altitudes - check the weather before you go to the top!

Lucas

Last modified on Jul 26, 2017 - 4:47 PM by Lucas
rrtantry
rrtantry
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Jul 27, 2017 - 6:10 AM in reply to Lucas

Thank you so much.

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