Zurich-Milan, and Milan-Brig savings plan

Zurich-Milan, and Milan-Brig savings plan

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Cheetingong
Cheetingong
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Apr 24, 2018 - 5:03 PM

Hi

I am planning a 11-day family trip (2 adults, 2 kids) around Switzerland in June but will make a short 2-3 day trip to Italy in between. Hence, I plan to buy a 15-day Swiss Travel Pass to save some money.

1) For the short trip to Italy, I plan to travel from Zurich to Milan, and thereafter back to Switzerland (via Brig). If I understand some of the Forum conversation, I need only to buy the ticket covering Chiasso- Milan (for the Zurich-Milan leg) and thereafter Milan-Domodassola (border town/ city) en route to Brig. Is this true?

2) The second part of my question is I also notice from the Swiss Rail Map, the Swiss Travel Pass requires top ups (i.e. 50% discount) for certain stretches between Fluelen-Lugano, and Domodassola-Brig. Is this right? If so, where can I top up the balance (in the train itself and pay the conductor when he comes around OR at any main station)?

3) I went into SBB website to try booking a direct train from Zurich to Milan (3.5 hours). There is no indication of any pass holder privilege. The website quoted me CHF202 for our family of 4, which comes with reservation.

4) As for the Milan-Brig direct route, the SBB website quoted me CHF116 for our family of 4. Again I can't find any indication of any Swiss Travel Pass holder privilege except those with GA 1 or 2.cl, 1 year/GA subscription / Half-Fare travel card 1/2/3-year / Junior Card.

Can someone help enlighten me on how to enjoy seamless connectivity for travel between Switzerland and Italy at minimal cost? Many thanks in advance.

Regards, ONG

Last modified on Apr 24, 2018 - 6:37 PM by Chantal
Chantal
Chantal
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Apr 24, 2018 - 6:46 PM in reply to Cheetingong

Hi Cheetingong, and welcome to MySwissAlps,

  1. That's correct
  2. I'm not sure what you mean by topping up the balance. With the Swiss Travel Pass your train trips in Switzerland will be for free.
  3. Where it says 'reduction for Switzerland' you should select GA. Not sure how old your kids are, but do you have the Swiss Family Card which comes for free with the Swiss Travel Pass?
  4. It's the GA option.
rockoyster
rockoyster
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Apr 24, 2018 - 9:03 PM in reply to Cheetingong

2. The dashed (not dotted) lines between Fluelen-Lugano, and Domodassola-Brig indicate tunnels. Watch out for dots and dashes. Only dotty routes require an extra ticket. 🤓

Last modified on Apr 24, 2018 - 9:03 PM by rockoyster
Cheetingong
Cheetingong
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Apr 25, 2018 - 3:22 PM in reply to Chantal

Hi Chantal,

Thanks for the prompt response.

2. Rockoyster answered my question in the next post.

3 & 4. What does GA stands for? And can I assume GA1 stands for Class 1, and GA2 stands for Class 2? My kids are 7 and 11. I plan to apply Swiss Family Card for them when I purchase the Swiss Travel Pass online. Hope it is an easy process.

Thanks again.

Cheetingong
Cheetingong
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Apr 25, 2018 - 3:23 PM in reply to rockoyster

Thank you for the clarification. Much appreciated.

rockoyster
rockoyster
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Apr 25, 2018 - 8:52 PM in reply to Cheetingong

The General Abonnement (GA) Card is for Swiss Residents. It operates much like a Swiss Travel Pass. The SBB timetable is oriented to domestic use - that’s why it uses GA instead of STP. 1 and 2 refer to class of travel so pick the class that corresponds to your STP.

Cheetingong
Cheetingong
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May 5, 2018 - 10:30 AM

hi, sorry to trouble you again.

I have the following quote from SBB for travel between Zurich-Milan (direct train) in June 2018 with my Swiss Travel Pass (Class 2, with family card). It is CHF20 per adult (x2) and CHF13 per children (x2) which total CHF66 (see attachment).

Do you know if this quote includes the Italy rail tickets (i.e. Chaisso - Milan leg)? Or I still need to buy a ticket for Chiasso - Milan leg? If the latter is true, where can I buy that ticket? And do I need to pay for my children's (aged 7 and 11) for the Italy leg?

Many thanks again.

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Lucas
Lucas
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May 5, 2018 - 7:52 PM in reply to Cheetingong

The complication here is that you have a Swiss Travel Pass and not the Swiss GA which you selected (two different products) It works out the same for domestic travel but discounts vary on international tickets. The GA offers discounts on the Italian portion of the trip which you aren't entitled to with a Swiss Travel Pass.

What you should do is only buy a ticket from Chiasso to Milan (with a reservation).

You can do so on the sbb site but it may be simpler through one of the online retailers here: https://www.myswissalp s.com/traintickets/ita ly

rockoyster
rockoyster
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May 5, 2018 - 9:08 PM in reply to Lucas

Hi Lucas,

The SBB website describes one of the benefits of the GA Card as reduced fares in Germany and Austria. I don’t see any mention of special benefits in Italy. Not arguing with you but just intrigued as to why GA option would not give same price as STP to Chiasso and Italian ticket from there.

Lucas
Lucas
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May 6, 2018 - 1:45 AM in reply to rockoyster

Ah you may be right there with Italy. I'm not 100% sure when it is a bordering country but not German-speaking (the German speaking countries give each other extra benefits). :)

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