Not only Grumpy but Sneezy and a bit Sleepy this AM. Not Bashful, however. But definitely Stubborn. Perhaps you did not know that she was the 8th dwarf, who did not make the cut in the final version of the film, edited in earlier times when movie casting was more sexist. A revisionist gender-neutral version is due any day, and they'll need 8 dwarves to enable an even split, so Stubborn will be reincarnated.
Since you've got Luzern ( local German spelling) in the plans already, that may be inappropriate for a visit. Although, there is a lot to see there. A boat ride on Lake Lucerne northward from Flüelen to at least Brunnen and perhaps onward is quite nice, if it is not in your plans yet.
When are you traveling, or are helping your son plan a trip? How old is he? Makes a difference when recommending things that teenagers tend to get quickly bored with. ;-)
And the Rheinfall is certainly not just one more boring mountain or old town.
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If, however, old towns are enjoyable, the area near Neumarkt in Zürich, and the streets around it, are full of old buildings, shops of all kinds, and nice things to look at or photograph.. A nice place to wander. It is not far from the Niederdorf mentioned in that tour route linked by Rockoyster. Restaurant (Wirtschaft) Neumarkt was nice a couple of years ago, too:
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And, if your tripper(s) are of a literary mind, you would possibly enjoy a visit to the gravesite of James Joyce in the cemetery at Fluntern:
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A short walk from the end of the #6 tram line. Nice views from up there, on Zürichberg. The cemetery is the resting place of quite few famous people, and is beautifully landscaped.
Bern is one hour from Zürich with fast trains ( 56 minutes) twice an hour at xx02 and xx32.
If your are going in November, the "Zibelemärit" (Onion Market) is quite a sight. If I recall correctly, first weekend in November.
From one ex-New Yorker (upstate) to another New Yorker -
Remember the American Motto. "Bigger is Better."
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If you have not been to Niagara Falls, then I suggest you first visit the Rheinfall, then Niagara, and post your comparison here. If you have been to Niagara, especially the Canadian side, you will be underwhelmed by the Rheinfall. I believe a phrase that I have seen used on this forum is "miss it!"
Joking aside, individual tastes vary. They vary more if you have not seen Niagara.;-)
And I like the beautiful high falsl in the Lauterbrunnen Valley, like the Staubbach. Will the itinerary include that?
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The Staubbach Falls are my favorite.
I cannot compare flow volumes of Niagara and the Rheinfall, because much of Niagara is diverted for hydroelectric power. Enough is metered out to allow good sightseeing, but it is a minor part, and varies with time of day, I recall.
For Peterli- no. we did not take the boat ride at the Rheinfall.
My question in turn is, have you visited Niagara Falls on one of your trips to the USA? Worth a detour.