Timetable boat ride from Thun to Spiez

Timetable boat ride from Thun to Spiez

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Slowpoke
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Jan 10, 2018 - 9:32 AM in reply to Abelefko1

<<"I tried looking it up and I’m a little confused...which stop to get off /on to experience this train ?">>

I don't understand your question. If I take it literally as you have written it, the answer is get on the train at Basel and get off at Lausanne, if the possibly available boat that goes to Montreux matches your schedule needs. Ride the boat to Montreux. Get on the train at Montreux and get off at Sierre. Transfer to a bus. Ride to Crans/ Montana.

Slowpoke

Abelefko1
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Jan 10, 2018 - 9:44 AM in reply to Slowpoke

HI slowspoke.

rockoyster suggested a train ride might be an interesting experience. So I tried figuring out where to get on /off

rockoyster
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Jan 10, 2018 - 10:09 AM in reply to Abelefko1

When going from Basel to Crans-Montana just add via Kandersteg to the SBB Timetable search.

You will end up following route as attached.

WARNING: Does not involve any boat rides! If you are desperate for a winter boat ride seek additional advice.

Last modified on Jan 10, 2018 - 10:11 AM by rockoyster
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Abelefko1
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Jan 10, 2018 - 10:20 AM in reply to rockoyster

Thanks for all the help! After some deliberation we decided that it will be more enjoyable to do boat ride as a separate day trip. So we will probably do the regio train.

rockoyster
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Jan 10, 2018 - 10:35 AM in reply to Abelefko1

We know you are going from Basel to Crans-Montana. I’m guessing, and this a long shot, to ski. If we knew what the rest of your travel plans were we might ge able to offer some advice to help satisfy your boating needs.

Crans-M is not the ideal base for an on-lake experience day trip. šŸ¤“

Abelefko1
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Jan 10, 2018 - 11:48 AM in reply to rockoyster

Actually we will probably not be doing much skiing as we have a half-year-old baby… For specific reasons we want to go specifically to crans Montana. But we will see what is feasible for day trips...boats,walks....

Abelefko1
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Jan 20, 2018 - 10:16 PM in reply to rockoyster

hi i see that it says on that train "bk fl" do you know what that means ? "buy with supplement " ? we have a saver day pass. thanks !

rockoyster
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Jan 20, 2018 - 10:33 PM in reply to Abelefko1

Are you talking about the Regio-Express Lötschberger? I see BK and R. BK I don’t know. R means reservations possible ( but not mandatory). You will be fine with SDP.

Slowpoke
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Jan 20, 2018 - 10:43 PM in reply to rockoyster

Hi Rockoyster.

See attached. Read all the way to the bottom.

I tried tolookit up, but could not quickly find anything.

Here is my interpretation.

Starting a few years ago, the conductors no longer could sell you a ticket after you were on board the train. It became necessary to have either a ticket or railpas or both s before you got on board; previously, you could hop on and pay the conductor.

I think that

"Buy your ticket on the train ( with supplement)"

means that you have the unusual privilege of being able to buy your ticket on the train, but you will have to pay extra, as a supplemet to the regular ticket price.

That is my best guess.

The coverage map would probably give a clue, too.

https://www.myswissalp s.com/swisstravelpass/ validity

It shows that the STP is valid, as you note.

Slowpoke

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Abelefko1
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Jan 20, 2018 - 11:08 PM in reply to Slowpoke

I read the legend...that’s what I’m nervous about. Anyone has taken this train in the past? Does it cost extra??

Slowpoke
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Jan 20, 2018 - 11:17 PM in reply to Abelefko1

Trust the map I linked to.

I have ridden it many times and there was no extra charge.

Slowpoke

rockoyster
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Jan 20, 2018 - 11:19 PM in reply to Slowpoke

Hi Slowpoke.

Nice work!

Abelefko1
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Jan 20, 2018 - 11:34 PM in reply to Slowpoke

Thanks!! You’re awesome!!

Slowpoke
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Jan 20, 2018 - 11:45 PM in reply to rockoyster

Thanks.

The tools are there, but it is hard to remebr which ones and what they help with.

Futher thoughts on my interpretation - I'd guess that a supplement for buying a ticket on the trains might be 5-10 CHF or so. They really don't want people to buy on the trains.

Next step would be to send a query to to the SBB. The link for that is on their main website.

Another bet-

Alpenrose knows where to find the answer ;-)

Slowpoke

rockoyster
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Jan 21, 2018 - 1:42 AM in reply to Abelefko1

Word of warning. If you are coming through from Basel then watch out for a connection at Bern with a symbol with an arrow going two ways next to it. See attached.

The train splits in two when it reaches Spiez. The front half (from memory) continues to Brig, the back half goes to Zweisimmen. Just make sure you get on the right end in Bern. It should be sign-posted. If not ask a conducter.

Last modified on Jan 21, 2018 - 1:43 AM by rockoyster
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rockoyster
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Jan 21, 2018 - 2:12 AM in reply to Slowpoke

Hi Slowpoke,

I still use the legacy SBB timetable (fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/qu ery.exe/en) to look stuff up. I stuck with it because the new timetable search didn;t show maps. But now it does. Maybe I'd better get with the times?

When I was looking at what BK meant earlier I was using an iPad. On a desktop when you hover over the code it shows the meaning; but not on the iPad.

I wonder if the BK "concession" is because the train is operated by BLS and not SBB? Or does BLS only operate the car transport Kandersteg to Goppenstein? So many questions, so little time.

Slowpoke
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Jan 21, 2018 - 2:30 AM in reply to rockoyster

Hi Rockoyster-

<<"I still use the legacy SBB timetable to look stuff up. Maybe I'd better get with the times?">>

Use what you will. I use that and the paper book, now slightly obsolete. And other sources.

However, it seems to me that the standard to be applied on the Forum, is what will the customer (the person posting) see?

So, for the purpose of answers here, it is more desirable to use what MySwissAlps has in its links, what the person posting can see without having to work at it, or paraphrase.

Slowpoke.

Lucas
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Jan 21, 2018 - 9:56 AM in reply to Abelefko1

Yes exactly.

BK = BilleteKauf (im Zug möglich mit Zuschlag). So if you don't have a ticket before boarding you can buy one on the train from the conductor (they don't want the conductor to be bothered with selling tickets so they charge you 5-10 chf to cover their time).

If you already have a ticket or a rail pass then there is no extra charge on the train.

Last modified on Jan 21, 2018 - 9:58 AM by Lucas
Abelefko1
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Jan 22, 2018 - 8:43 AM

So guys last minute...see attachment!! Does this mean my plans are doomed??

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rockoyster
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Jan 22, 2018 - 9:48 AM

Looks like you might have to go through the tunnel to Visp. ‘It happens. šŸ˜‰

Last modified on Jan 22, 2018 - 9:49 AM by rockoyster

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