Klingenstock to Fronalpstock - Ridge hike at Stoos

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Lanab206
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Feb 16, 2018 - 12:34 AM

Hello Experts!

Will the ridge hike from Stoos between Klingenstock and Fronalpstock be open in early May? (May 8) or is it at too high an altitude?

Thank you!

Lana

Lucas
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Feb 16, 2018 - 8:26 AM in reply to Lanab206

Hi Lana,

Unfortunately no, it is a bit too early (especially with the snowfall this winter) the season doesn't typically start until mid-June: https://www.myswitzerl and.com/en-ch/panorama-hike-klingenstock-fronalpstock.html

If you are in the area anyway there may be other trails open to you lower down if you're lucky but I wouldn't count on it in early May. The Stoos website has good information about the area and hiking options.

Lanab206
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Feb 17, 2018 - 12:09 AM

Thank you, Lucas. I'm bummed, that hike looks EPIC!

Stoos Tourism office advised that the Fronalpstock cable car is not running April 2 to May 25. Might you know if the Klingenstock cable car is open?

Also, will Morschach - Stoos cable car be open? I am hoping to take the steep funicular up to Stoos, and then head over to Morschach. I can't seem to find any information on this on SBB or on Stoos website.

Thank you so much for your help!

Lana

rockoyster
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Feb 17, 2018 - 12:45 AM in reply to Lanab206

If you look up those cable car routes on the SBB Timetable (www.myswissalps.com/ti metable) it will indicate if they are running or not on your preferred travel dates.

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Feb 17, 2018 - 3:09 AM in reply to Lanab206

Hi Lana,

>> Fronalpstock cable car ... Klingenstock cable car

Just to clarify, those aren't cable cars, but chairlifts.

Alpenrose

Lanab206
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Feb 17, 2018 - 3:36 AM

Thank you rockoyster for the guidance and alpenrose for the clarification.

To to follow up, sbb seems to be my best friend and worst enemy at the same time. I’ve been able to find many of my train and bus routes on the site, by when it comes a bit more off the beaten path I keep running into errors. Few questions:

How far out can you search sbb? If I’m looking at May, is it too far out to search actual dates? Should I be using the same day or week in an earlier month to get an idea of route?Or is this not reliable?

Also, do such chairlifts show on sbb? Or should I be looking at individual location websites?

Thank you for your help!

rockoyster
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Feb 17, 2018 - 4:37 AM in reply to Lanab206

You should see both Klingenstock to Fronalpstock from Stoos in the SBB timetable up to an including 2 April

I can see Fronalpstock running after 25 May but not Klingenstock.

You should be able to search SBB timetable up to early December which is when the annual timetable update occurs.

Lanab206
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Feb 17, 2018 - 4:54 AM in reply to rockoyster

Wonderful, thank you rockoyster.

I am to presume that the error messages I’m running into are resulting from closures of transportation along the route I am searching. This makes sense.

Thanks again!

Lana

rockoyster
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Feb 17, 2018 - 4:58 AM in reply to rockoyster

That's right Lana. If you see "unfortunately there was no route found" usually means that route is not operating at that time.

You may have already seen www.myswitzerland.com/ en-au/fronalpstock-by-aircraft-across-lake-lucerne.html.

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Feb 17, 2018 - 5:37 AM in reply to Lanab206

Hi Lana,

>> I am to presume that the error messages I’m running into are resulting from closures of transportation along the route

One way of finding out the operational dates from the SBB timetable is to do a search for a time when you are pretty sure it will be operating. Mid-July on a Saturday is usually a pretty safe bet for anything that is likely to be running in the summer. Alternatively, a Saturday at the end of January is a good bet for transport that only operates in the winter.

  • First of all, make sure you have the correct "from" and "to" stations (Screenshot 1), as that can sometimes be a bit tricky.
  • Pick a time of day that is not too early and not too late e.g. 10 am
  • Run the search and click on one of the search results from the list (Screenshot 2)
  • When it opens, click on the plus sign (Screenshot 3)
  • Then click on "Show journey information" (Screenshot 4)
  • You will then have details about times of the year it is operating (Screenshot 5)

The details displayed only apply to the specific departure time you searched for, but as long as it is not too early or late in the day, it would usually be more generally applicable.

Alpenrose

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Lanab206
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Feb 17, 2018 - 6:50 AM

Thank you Rockoyster, yes I have seen this and had my fingers and toes crossed that the ridge hike would be accessible. The views from Fronalpstock look incredible. Looks like there are quite a few options from Stoos with beautiful views though which will have to suffice. Perhaps we’ll hike over to Morschach.

Alpenrose, this is extremely helpful. One of those ‘hacks’ to the system that you would never know unless told by an expert :-) invaluable information, I really appreciate you taking the time.

Debra
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Feb 17, 2018 - 4:00 PM

A hiking website that reviewed the stoos ridge hike said that every time this person went up (always on sunny Saturdays in summer) the klinginstock chair lift was closed. Maybe just operates in winter.

Lanab206
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Feb 17, 2018 - 10:50 PM in reply to Debra

Hi Debra,

I saw that too! I can’t catch a break here :-)

Lana

Debra
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Feb 17, 2018 - 11:40 PM

But apparently you can hike the ridge trail and then take a trail back down to stoos before you get to the chair lift if it is closed. I'm planning on this hike in august!

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Feb 18, 2018 - 12:10 AM

>> Maybe just operates in winter.

Apparently the chairlift from Stoos to Klingenstock is highly weather dependent in summer.

This is my understanding of the operational arrangements, based on the official timetable at the following site:

www.fahrplanfelder.ch/ en/search-for.html

From what I can gather, because operational status in summer is so weather-dependent, the SBB online timetable only shows it as operating during the main season (winter).

  • 16 Dec 2017 - 2 Apr 2018: operating daily
  • 3 Apr - 8 Jun 2018: closed for maintenance
  • 9 Jun - 29 Jun 2018: operates on weekends and public holidays in nice weather
  • 30 Jun - 21 Oct 2018: operates daily in nice weather
  • 22 Oct - 28 Oct 2018: operates on weekends and public holidays in nice weather
  • 29 Oct - 14 Dec 2018: closed for maintenance

So that makes it very hard to plan ahead, but you can check operational status on the day on the following site:

stoos-muotatal.ch/betriebsin formationen/

I expect those green lines turn to red when the lift is not operating.

Alpenrose

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