Trains to Swiss mountain tops to avoid cable cars
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ArnoModerator15484 posts23 November 2018 at 17:31:00 #899387
Hi Peterli,
I certainly get your point. There’s just too many passes, cards and tickets to explain about in a clear matter. We’ve decided to explain about the popular ones in detail, and then some more. I don’t know of one map showing all different options. It would indeed be very complicated to create, and keep updated. And then people have to understand what they’re looking at. We now have coverage maps per pass, plus a list of the discounts on main attractions, like here: http://www.myswissalps.com/sw isstravelpass/validity. And then there’s also a list of discounts per pass for each attraction, like here: http://www.myswissalps.com/pi latus/tickets.
Removed userParticipant72625 posts24 November 2018 at 0:19:44 #899388Yes.
Kulm is a classic example of the links between German and English languages. Compare Kulm (summit) to the English word ‘Culmination’ = reach the top/zenith of an activity
Removed userParticipant72625 posts24 November 2018 at 0:27:08 #899389Yes, 1020531 is taken above the hairpin bend in the railway, ie Riffelalp station is down the hillside to the right of the photo. I had to take my skis off and fight my way through deep snow at the side of the ski piste to get the shot.
In contrast 0533 is taken right on the ski slope with my skis on. On that trip, whilst ski-ing I was also concentrating on capturing photos of the 50+ year old single car trains as they are used less and less these days
PeterliParticipant1206 posts24 November 2018 at 8:08:59 #899390Hi Arno,
After giving it some more thought, I realize that you are right that any single map would be just too complicated to create and then to keep up-to-date. I guess the best I could hope to see would be some sort of list by region. I guess it was the old geography teacher in me thinking that some map would be the answer. In any case, as I become aware of new regional cards or passes or I feel mentioning one seems germane to a particular thread, I’ll probably chip in. I may even try to work up a list, perhaps starting with lake and river transportation. I agree that if one is already in possession of a Swiss Travel Card, it probably trumps (oops, sorry for that word) or equals anything else.
PeterliParticipant1206 posts24 November 2018 at 8:18:30 #899391Just for fun, I thought I’d see what Wikipedia says about the use of the word Kulm in Switzerland. Here is what I found:
- Harderkulm, a viewpoint on the Harder near Interlaken in canton of Bern
- Kulm (district), canton of Aargau
- Kulm, the highest point of the Simplon Pass, canton of Valais
- Oberkulm and Unterkulm, two related villages in the canton of Aargau
- Pilatus Kulm, the name of the top cable car station on the Pilatus near Luzern
- Rigi Kulm, the highest peak of the Rigi massif in canton of Schwyz, near Luzern
- Part of the name of many mountain restaurants on the top of a mountain
I can add Niesen Kulm, which is the name of the top funicular station on the Niesen.
ArnoModerator15484 posts24 November 2018 at 10:51:47 #899392Hi Peterli,
Personally I like maps as well. Technically we could compile a list by region, based on the information we already have per attraction. I’ll keep that in mind. We do have “things to do per region”, like here: http://www.myswissalps.com/ce ntralswitzerland/activ ities. From there one can access fare and ticket info for each attraction. I guess if things were easy we wouldn’t need a forum anymore, that would be a pity 😉
Removed userParticipant72625 posts24 November 2018 at 23:23:57 #899393There are already various lists, including:
http://www.sbb.ch/de/abos-billette/tarifverbunde .html
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Liste_der_Schweizer_Ta rifverbünde
However, I think I agree with Arno’s hint – is listing absolutely everything going beyond the remit of a forum?
One problem with internet forums across the board is that sometimes people ask questions about things that are easily searchable (I am on one forum that actually has a feature which you can add to an answer called ‘tried searching?’ )
PeterliParticipant1206 posts25 November 2018 at 1:17:49 #899394Hello Arno,
I checked the second link that 1960man provided above (the de.wikipedia one) and this is much of what I was thinking, even a map ! I noticed that there is an English version, entitled List of Swiss tariff networks. Here is the link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_Swiss_tariff_n etworks It may not be completely up to date but is an excellent start for what I was thinking of, and there is no use in re-inventing the wheel, especially since there are ways of contributing to Wikipedia.
PeterliParticipant1206 posts25 November 2018 at 1:28:10 #899395<< One problem with internet forums across the board is that sometimes people ask questions about things that are easily searchable >> You can say that again, and it seems that people ask the same questions over and over again. I guess this is partly due to the structure of a forum, which in itself is not always the easiest source to search. It’s so much easier for many people to just ask their question(s). And then there are those who ask questions in someone else’s thread, rather than starting their own.
SlowpokeParticipant7567 posts25 November 2018 at 17:11:43 #899396Hi 1960man –
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Also, Arno and Annika wrote a trip report on their journey up to Rochers de Naye a couple of years ago.
I could not find it in am quick search, but they had some nice photos.
And, if you search that name in this website, you’ll get a lot of posts.
The relative paucity of posts probably means most simply that peopled don’t ask about it. Since our role is primarily to answer questions, and secondarily…. a distant second…to teach, that may explain your observation.
The remedy is more advertising by the regional tourist facilities, in my opinion.
Slowpoke
ArnoModerator15484 posts25 November 2018 at 17:22:06 #899397Hi Slowpoke,
I can’t recall that trip report but you might be right. I did find this one: http://www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/sunny-day-trip-around-lake-geneva-vevey. I’ve planned to create “official” pages about those places too.
SlowpokeParticipant7567 posts25 November 2018 at 18:20:28 #899398Your memory is better than mine. No surprise. It was Les Pléiades.
Nice pictures capture the environment well.
Slowpoke
PeterliParticipant1206 posts25 November 2018 at 21:29:28 #899399Hello Arno,
I have just read the report of your April 2016 trip to the Vevey area. Nice photographs and those the views from the two restaurants look great and their food offerings are very tempting.
The beauty of this area, indeed so many areas in Switzerland, explains why tourism is such an important part of the Swiss economy, and not just for visitors from foreign countries. I am wondering about the relative importance of foreign tourist receipts versus internal (domestic) tourist receipts. These would not be the same for accommodations as they would be for restaurants and travel, as many Swiss can make day trips from where they live. Just wondering. I’ve mentioned on other threads that last month I was up on the Niesen, and I bet almost none of the people I saw were foreigners. One indicator is that I didn’t hear a word of English. Actually, I did hear a couple of people going down on the funi speaking Spanish.
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