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Hello M. Both trips (Zurich-Zermatt and Zurich-Lugano) can be found using the timetable. Just enter your preferred date of traveling, departure and destination station to get an overview of all connections, including many details. You can add via-stations to specify your routes. If you don’t, the timetable will automatically show the quickest routes. For example: add Chur, Pontresina and Tirano as via-stations for the Bernina Express-trip Zurich-Lugano. You can travel in regular trains. If you want to take a scenic Bernina Express train with panoramic windows however, you should arrange for seat reservations.
Would you mind writing full words rather than using text talk and abbreviations in your next posts, as asked for in our forum rules? That will help keeping our forum understandable and accessible to all visitors. Thank you :-)!