kim11 said: <<"However, there are a couple of things that I disagree with.
>However, the web site I linked to earlier will make clear which ones are open.<
Unfortunately this is not the case during shoulder season (May/June).......... I have seen this trail open and close several times during this time frame based on the daily weather conditions. So my advice is to hope for the best but have alternative plans.">>
Thanks. there is nothing better than details from someone who is at the location. I had forgotten about the potential for opening and closing more than once at that time of year.
<<"And, really, these walks from Männlichen to Kleine Scheidegg and Grütschalp to Mürren are not hikes, rather they are walks. Both easily done in running shoes with good traction. Not Keds or smooth-bottomed sneakers for sure. I have seen pushcarts and even people in motorized wheel chairs on these paths. My 75 year old mother that has done pretty much zero exercise in her life did the M to KS walk with no trouble whatsoever.">>
I do not disagree at all.....as long as you are speaking to or as a Swiss resident. You speak as a Swiss who hikes or walks frequently, especially compared to the standards of people from countries where walking is less common. I will remind you of the first post. AndyJen said -
<<"We are both inexperienced hikers so we are looking for very easy to easy
walks and hikes to do in the area. Are there any trails over relatively
level terrain or with just minor inclines?">
"Inexperienced" - includes "do not own boots." What footwear did your mother wear?
I offer these observations for perspective .One morning I was hiking or walking from Brienzer Rothorn to Schönbuel, with my boots and Spazierstock - which I needed, especially in that one slippery spot near the beginning where the cable is available for a hand grip. I had paused to catch my breath on one of the climbs. I climb more slowly at high altitude. A woman with her 5 or 6 year old son was walking the trail in the other direction and paused to ask me if i needed help. They both had on boots, but did not have staffs. Just an ordinary walk for them. Another day, a beautiful Sunday, on that trail we saw a couple in their "Go to Church" clothes and dress shoes ( not high heels!) walking the trail. That was only slightly surprising from a Swiss perspective.
Here is a different perspective - When I am talking with friends in the USA about walking or hiking on Switzerland, I start with a joke- "Walking is a legitimate form of public transportation in Switzerland." Then I wait. The light dawns after a moment. Many people in the USA will take a car to go 100 yards, or wait in their cars to get a parking place 10 meters closer to the door of the Post office before they get out, when they could park and walk the 10 meters.
<<"Not that it really matters (but since I'm on site anyway) the Jungfrau is not in the direction of the Lauterbrunnen Valley walk. This is a positively stunning walk with beautiful waterfalls and scenery. But the peak you are facing is not the Jungfrau (which is not visible from Lauterbrunnen Valley walk) but the Breithorn. There is a lovely waterfall that spills out year round, coming from the Oberhornsee above. Beautiful.">>
I took my own advice and looked at the map. See attached. You are right, but I was not too far off base, especially when talking to someone who has never heard of the Breithorn.
Kim - it is really valuable to have your knowledge of the area. From you and Herr Allenspach I am learning a lot. Thanks. I visit periodically, and you live there. Can't be beat. I really appreciate your taking the time to help me.
But, I have a lot of experience with people who have never owned hiking boots, and have never been on a mountain trail. One family (relatives of my daughter-in-law) with pre-teen children had read a lot of Rick Steve's material and had decided to walk from Schilthorn down to Mürren (or that village just below Mürren that he promotes) in sneakers, late in the afternoon.....With some difficulty, I suggested that they might try something easier first.