Rhine Falls & Chur-Davos scenic railway in Oct

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Xmistral99
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Sep 5, 2019 - 3:37 PM

Hi

I have planned the following railway journeys for the last day of our stay in the Switzerland in late October.The focus of the initial part is on the Rhine falls while in the latter part it is the Chur-Davos panoramic railway line.I appreciate the opinion of experts as to its doability/suggestions and help for clarifying some questions.I have used SBB for timetables.

(visiting Rhine falls from Schaffhausen -7.00-9.00)

Schaffhausen-Zurich 9.17-9.55

1 hr break

Zurich-Landquart 11.12-12.32

Landquart-Davos platz 12.47-13.57

Davos-Chur 14.31-16.03

1hr break

Chur-Sargans 17.01-17.21

I will be taking the train to Innsbruck from Sargans at 17.35.

Is there any viewpoint of the bridge at a walking distance from Filisur station?Will it be worth skipping Chur visit and spending more time over there?

Even if the Glazier express is not available,is late October fine for making Chur-Davos railway leg in normal trains?

I will have STP.I think the above route is completely covered by STP?

I will have to take that particular train to Innsbruck as I have already bought the necessary tickets.Is 10 minutes too risky for that connection?Or is it fine to totally rely on the punctuality of the swiss railways?

As the train to Innsbruck starts in Zurich will it have no vacant seats left when it reaches Sargans?

Thank you!

1960man
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Sep 5, 2019 - 11:21 PM

My comments on your questions

1) Chur - Davos is not referred to as a 'panoramic railway line'. It is just another railway in the Swiss Alps, part of the network of railways in the region - all of which are scenic. It is certain special trains that are referred to as 'Panoramic'

2) The Glacier (not Glazier) Express doesn't run on the Davos line: www.myswissalps.com/gl acierexpress/gettingth ere. You don't need it anyway - all the normal trains have large windows.

3) It is about 20 - 30 minutes walk from Filisur station to the Landwasser Viaduct (some hills and paths involved)

4) Just as interesting as the Landwasser is the Wiesen Viaduct at Davos - Wiesen

5) Any time of the year is perfectly as good as any other in the Swiss Alps - weather can be good or poor all 365 days: www.myswissalps.com/we ather.

6) It is your choice regarding boarding at Sargans. The connection would normally work fine but you may wish to add extra time for your own peace of mind. The train will probably have seats available but again, you never can tell definitively. You should be able to reserve a seat from Sargans (train RJX367)

7) STP covers all main line Swiss railways routes so yes you are fine: www.myswissalps.com/sw isstravelpass/validity.

Xmistral99
Xmistral99
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Sep 9, 2019 - 9:31 AM

thanks for your comments and replies.I should have used "scenic railway"instead of "panoramic!If I am starting from Landquart and move toward Chur via Davos, which side of the train gives better views?

1960man
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Sep 9, 2019 - 11:18 PM in reply to Xmistral99

Landquart - Chur - Davos is a long way in a local context, so there will be good views on both sides in most places. Regarding the Wiesen and Landwasser viaducts, you don't see the Wiesen viaduct from the train but there is a nice walk across the bridge if you stop over for 1 hour at Davos Wiesen. The Landwasser is curved so you can see it from the train (sit on the left if travelling Filisur - Chur). If you catch a train formed of RhB railway's 'Alvra' trainsets there is a photographers' compartment with opening windows, but you need to be in it immediately as the train only takes 2 minutes to reach the Landwasser

Xmistral99
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Sep 12, 2019 - 8:40 AM

Thank you for the information!

1960man
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Sep 12, 2019 - 11:09 PM

Just to continue banging the gong for the Wiesen viaduct:

It is actually taller than the Landwasser Viaduct

It actually crosses the same river (the Landwasser river)

It is arguably a more interesting bridge technically and architecturally

It has one of the longest stone masonry arches of any bridge worldwide

It is slightly less cliched as a tourist site than the Landwasser viaduct

The way to 'do' the viaduct is as follows:

1) get off your Filisur-bound train at Davos-Wiesen

2) walk across the bridge and follow the path to the viewing area

3) wait for the train you just got off to return from Filisur towards Davos,

4) photograph the viaduct with that train crossing it

5) walk back to Wiesen station and catch the next train to Filisur

rockoyster
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Xmistral99
Xmistral99
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Sep 13, 2019 - 9:53 AM

Thanks a lot for all the information and your valuable tips!By following your advice I think we"ll be able to get the most out of our stay in any part of Switzerland!

Mageo
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Sep 14, 2019 - 4:08 AM

Thanks 1960man, for the info re.the Wiesen Viaduct, will put it on our list! Mageo

1960man
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Sep 15, 2019 - 12:45 AM

Thanks for the shout outs folks.

My wife and I actually reached the viewing area before reaching Wiesen station last year as we walked from Filisur (nice path but steep in places) and it was quite hot weather

Xmistral99
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Sep 18, 2019 - 3:18 PM

We are also considering the possibility of taking the following legs of 'panoramic ' railway routes from Zurich instead of Chur-Davos one.

1.Arth-Goldau to St Gallen (Voralpen express)

2.Fluelen to Andermatt (Gothard express)

How can you compare the scenic nature and highlights of these two rail routes?Do you think that it is worth selecting one of these two instead of Chur-Davos route and if so which one would you recommend more?

Regards

Ildiko
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Sep 19, 2019 - 5:13 PM in reply to Xmistral99

Hi Xmistral99,

You can read a trip report about the Voralpen Express at www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/st-gallen-voralpen-express-from-zurich. This can be helpful too: www.myswissalps.com/fo rum/topic/voralpen-express-a-lesser-known-scenic-train

Read this concerning the Gotthard Panorama Express: www.myswissalps.com/go tthardpanoramaexpress/ gettingthere.

I also suggest you to look for images on Google regarding the 2 panoramic routes. I might help you a bit to decide.

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