[PHIL_K]

11 September 2019 at 14:02:08 #823823

I bought the Jungfrau pass 2 years ago for a 5 day visit and loved it. It covered the area and we used the barcode on the pass to enter many of the gondolas. It was fast. Now I am adding Luzerne for 2 nights after Wengen for 4. I am trying to decide between the 2 passes. Can I board any train from Bern to Interlaken or Interlaken to Luzern with the Bernese Oberland Pass? I know Reservations would be extra. Do the passes for the BO work like the Jungfrau pass on the gondolas with the barcode or must I get a separate ticket?

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11 September 2019 at 17:52:51 #922074

Hi Phil K and welcome to MySwissAlps!

You can download the validity map of Jungfrau Travel Pass at http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfrautravelpass/valid ity and the same for the Regional Pass Bernese Oberland at http://www.myswissalps.com/re gionalpassberneseoberl and/validity/.

Bern – Interlaken and also Interlaken – Lucerne routes are included in the Regional Pass Bernese Oberland.

With the Jungfrau Travel Pass you just board and enjoy traveling on most of the lines (there are only a few exceptions like from Eigergletscher to Jungfraujoch, where you need to buy an additional ticket for a discounted price. For more details see the validity map.) This page tells you how to use the Jungfrau Travel Pass: http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfrautravelpass/howto use.

You can use the Regional Pass Bernese Oberland the same way; if the route is for free just board, if there is a discounted price, you need to get the tickets first: http://www.myswissalps.com/re gionalpassberneseoberl and/howtouse.

Make sure to check these too:

• http://www.myswissalps.com/la kelucerne/activities
• http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfrauregion/activitie s

[PHIL_K]

13 September 2019 at 10:58:17 #922075

Thank you. Can you comment on the following: The Bernese Oberland validity map shows that the gondola from Grindelwald to Mannlichen is NOT included. It is included in the Jungfrau pass. We are staying in Wengen so this is an important route for us. Secondly, the BO pass indicates a 50% discount on the route from Murren to Schilthorn, but when I try to buy these passes, the BO pass discount is not listed, only other Swiss pass, half card or Jungfrau pass. Thanks

[Annika]

13 September 2019 at 12:08:32 #922076

Hi Phil K!

The current Regional-Pass Bernese Oberland validity map doesn’t show the cable cars between Männlichen and Grindelwald because extensive construction works are going on. The replacement bus service (indicated by the yellow line) is included. I’m not sure when you’re traveling, but by December the new gondolas between Grindelwald and Männlichen should be operational: http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfraujoch/gettingther e.

Schilthorn is discounted by 50% indeed. You don’t have to order your Schilthorn tickets in advance, but if you do so, you can select any option that reduces the fare by 50%: http://www.myswissalps.com/ju ngfraujoch/gettingther e.

[PHIL_K]

13 September 2019 at 12:51:37 #922077

Thank you again. So there is currently no Gondola from Grindelwald to Mannlichen? We leave in a week BTW. Does it matter if I buy the BO pass online or when traveling through Bern HBF? We are flying into Zurich and I am not sure if they are sold there?

[Annika]

13 September 2019 at 13:08:40 #922078

Hi Phil K. Correct, currently there are only buses between Männlichen and Grindelwald, no gondolas.

The Regional-Pass Bernese Oberland can be bought online or at railway stations in the validity area. Zurich may be an exception, but I’m not 100% sure. Buying online will save time after arrival, as you won’t have to get to a manned desk at a busy railway station: http://www.myswissalps.com/re gionalpassberneseoberl and/price. You do need an additional ticket from Zurich Airport to Bern or Lucerne (depending on the route you pick). From there, your Regional-Pass will take over (assuming its validity starts at the day of your inbound trip from Zurich Airport): http://www.myswissalps.com/re gionalpassberneseoberl and/validity, http://www.myswissalps.com/tr aintickets/switzerland.

[PHIL_K]

13 September 2019 at 14:49:09 #922079

We really like the convenience of the travel with the Jungfrau pass especially in the cable cars and gondolas. If I recall we had a paper card in a plastic sleeve that we scanned at turnstiles or showed to a conductor (train). Very little need to go to a ticket office after I bought the card in Interlaken. Does the Bernese Oberland ticket (I am told I print the PDF at home) work the same way or am I going to have to show this pass at a ticket office at each gondola to obtain a free ticket? Maybe my memory is fading, but it was a tight connection to Grutschalp and if we have to make the extra step makes it tighter.

thanks again

[Arno]

14 September 2019 at 5:48:25 #922080

Hi Phil,

The Regional-Pass Bernese Oberland works the same way, and indeed it can be printed at home if you order through https://www.happyrail. com/en/pass/europe/swi tzerland/regional-pass-berner-oberland.

Coverage of both passes is different, please see Ildiko’s first two links. The Regional-Pass Bernese Oberland includes a much larger region.