<<"Thank you so much for the advice!">>
<<"Thank you SOOOO much for your help. You are saving me! You are all
amazing and I am so thankful for this incredible website you have
You are welcome.
Last things first. This web site is managed by Arno and Annika. I am a guest who has traveled a whole lot in Switzerland since 1980. And, who does not type as well as they do. ;-(
<<"This helps tremendously. So my new plan is to just stick to the B.O. region and Luzern (I will use this spelling from now on :D ). So with this new decision, I have a few more questions.">>
Good decision.. Luzern is good in good or bad weather. The BO really needs good weather.. From the point of view of snow remaining, the later you can get to the B.O., the better. Early June is still late winter up there, pretty much, depending on altitude. At Luzern, it is early summer.
<<"Is the train from Milano centrale to Luzern via the Gotthard Pass the only route option? While I am not opposed to taking that train due to the beautiful scenery, I am trying to maximize time and wonder if there is perhaps a faster alternate route? Also, which train line does the Gotthard pass journey? Would a swiss pass count for any of this journey or would I buy a separate train ticket to get me from Milan to Luzern and then activate a swiss pass once I get into Luzern? I think I am going to buy the 8 day consecutive pass (unless you would suggest the flexi pass?) My plan right now goes: take the train to Luzern on June 1, spend June1-5 here, Take the train back down to Interlaken and spend the rest of the time here and surrounding towns- Wegen, Gimmewald, Kandersteg, Murren (which of these places do you like best as a base for hiking and outdoor activities?) I assume we won’t be taking any other trains on June 1st so I plan toactivate my swiss pass on June 2 and use it to get around Luzern for the days we are there and back to Interlaken: If I get the 8 days pass, I just figure we can buy train tickets on our last 2 days to get around B.O. and to go to Spiez and then buy a ticket to go from Spiez back to Milan. Or if the flexi pass makes more sense and we can buy cheaper bus fares or something to get in between the towns of B.O. on days where we only have a 30 minute commute then maybe that is the better option…? What do you think?">>
That is a lot to answer. I'll get started but may not finish.
1.- The direct train from Malpensa to Domodossola is welcome. Glad they finally got it organized.
Look at map and you'll see why.
2.- I've been looking at the various routes and have not gotten good answers to time and distance. I am sure that there is no train from Malpensa to Spiez that takes 2 1/2 hours. That time is for selected trains from Milano Centrale to Spiez.
3.- Your inbound journey considerations, if you go through Spiez, must consider additional time to your actual destination. That could be Interlaken, Lauterbrunnen, or Wengen. That can add quite a bit to the total time. If/ when you go back out through Spiez, keep that in mind, as you will likely be coming from the B.O.
I just looked up Malpensa to Spiez at 11AM on Monday July 1.
3 hours and 3 minutes.
All the way to Wengen - 4 hrs and 31 minutes.
To Interlaken Ost, 3 hrs 38 minutes.
The trains into the Lauterbrunnen Valley from I.O. are slow, and from Lauterbrunnen up to Wengen is very slow due to cograil. Small train cars. limited luggage space, too. You are on a mountain railway.
4.- I do not yet see good routing to Luzern via the Gotthard, if you go from Malpensa to Domodossola. The real issue is total time to destination, I believe. To get that accurately, we have to know what time you arrive in Malpensa. Also, to what degree changing trains is a problem for you? Specifically, can you move luggage between trains in a crowded large station...such as Milano Centrale, quickly and easily? Are you traveling light, or do you have large suitcases? Inside Switzerland, it is easier and better organized at most stations. Domodossola is small. Had stairs to haul bags up and down, last time I was there many, many years ago.
5. You will have to change trains at some point, no matter what the route. A change at Milano Centrale, plus a fast train to Arth Goldau, and an extremely easy change there to the train for Luzern may prove no worse than the route to Spiez, Interlaken and , e.g. Wengen. Depends on when you are ready to leave the airport. What time?
5.- if you want to save hours or minutes here and there, revert to Zürich as your entry point. Pay more, save time...?
<<"Also, the Cisalpino train says the journey from Spiez to milano centrale is 2 1/2 hours (is this incorrect?)">>
That is correct for certain fast trains. You would till have to get to/from Malpensa.
Switching your arrival from Zürich to Malpensa is causing you a a lot of hassle, and a lot of lost time. Prabably sonme cost due to the Italian train tickets. I hope you are not doing just to save a few dollars/ CHF/pounds sterling or Euros?
<<"If you do find out there is a way to go from Malpensa straight to Luzern or Brig that would be fantastic!">>
Brig is what you already know about. It is intermedate between Domodossola and Spiez. Simple. Luzer depends on time of day.
I'm beginning to think you need to look at a map.
I won't deal with train passes; Arno and Annika are knowledgeable on that issue.
You are asking good questions, and it is clear that you are thinking about what you are reading. Keep it up. ;-)
Let us know your arrival time at Malpensa.