Trip report – Wengen and Sils Maria in September

  • Mark
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    22 September 2022 at 23:13:04 #828409

    After having to postpone visiting Switzerland twice due to COVID we finally made our trip this September to Wengen and Sils Maria. Although I have had recent issues with United cancelling flights our flight connections through Chicago to Zurich was without problems. We had previously bought the Swiss half fare card through the Swiss travel center from this website and downloaded it to our Iphone wallets. As a precaution we also printed a paper copy too. This turned out to be important as we all had to retrieve it from expired passes after only 1 day and in one case the HFC couldn’t be found on the phone and she didn’t have internet access to re-download it while on the train. To get to Wengen we used the HFC to get a point to point ticket from Zurich to Interlaken where we purchased the Jungfrau pass to get to Wengen and use during our stay in the Jungfrau area. Another important point is to make sure you have the exact same name on all your tickets and documents. One of our party had a nickname on a point to point ticket and the conductor almost made her buy another ticket.

    ** On arrival we were moderately jet lagged but as our hotel (Beausite Park) is less than 5 minutes from the cable car to Mannlichen we decided to stretch our legs with the Royal walk at Mannlichen and then on to Kleine Scheidegg before returning to Wengen. It was as beautiful as I remembered. See photo.

    ** Day 2- We chose the hike from First to Bussalp. You can choose to go by way of Faulhorn or alternately by way of Hireleni and Feld. We chose the latter as it was easier and I have always thought the trail to Waldspitz was especially scenic and Hireleni is just above Waldspitz. We were not disappointed, the views were spectacular. See photos. We took the cable car from Wengen to Mannlichen then to Grindelwald terminal. I was amazed and impressed with the changes to Grindelwald Grund. It was much easier to get the train to the center of Grindelwald then take the cable car to First. The first leg to Bachalpsee was typically scenic but moderately crowded. But from Bachalpsee to Bussalp we only saw 2 other hikers. At Bussalp we had a late lunch and beer then returned to Grindelwald by bus which ran every hour. The hike was about 7 miles

    ** Day 3- Meteoswiss predicted clouds and rain so we chose a hike in Lauterbrunnen valley, the Mountain View trail. As it turned out we had no rain and it was only partly cloudy with intermittent good views. I have noticed there is occasionally some confusion between the Mountain View trail and the Panaramaweg trail from Grutschalp to Murren. They are substantially different. The Panaramaweg trail is relatively flat and easy and parallels the train for the most part. The Mountain View trail climbs about 800 feet in the first half hour and a total of 1200 feet or so to Allmendhubel where it descends steeply to Murren. It is a true mountain path(dirt, roots, rocks)and correctly labeled moderate in my opinion but spectacular views, see photos. Possibly not a good choice for very young children. In Murren we ate at the Edelweiss hotel terrace with views of the valley and mountains. afterwards we road the cable cars down to Stechelberg and walked back to Lauterbrunnen, about 1.5 hrs.

    ** Day4- The weather was clear and cloudless all day so we chose the long difficult hike from Schynige Platte to First. It takes about 1.45 hrs to get to Schynige Platte from Wengen so we got an early start. This is perhaps the most scenic hike I have done and I always suggest starting on the ridge line Panaramaweg trail at the beginning in SP rather than the standard trail through the center of the plateau of SP. It adds possibly 2 miles to the hike but it gives you spectacular views of the lakes on the left and the mountains on the right. See photos. With this route our GPS watches registered 11 miles and 3000 feet elevation gain. The trail is rocky and steep especially the section before Faulhorn. You must be aware that the gondola at First closes at 5:30 and manage your time accordingly. The trail is rightfully rated as difficult.

    ** Day 5- This was a travel day from Wengen to Sils Maria. I was somewhat surprised the train ride to St Moritz took 6 hrs or longer. We had a 10 minute connection in Bern and our train was 8 minutes late arriving but we still made our connection with only seconds to spare. At St Moritz we were met at the station by a car from our Sils Maria hotel, The Waldhaus. The ride took about 25 minutes. The Waldhaus is a historic old family run hotel. A great place to stay. It reminded me of The Greenbrier Hotel in the US. Hotels in the area give guests a pass that gives free access to area busses, cable cars, and trains.

    ** Day 6- Another cloudless, clear day. We took the bus from Sils to the Corvatsch cable car (15 minutes)and took the cable car to the top for a short visit. Back down to the mid station, Murtel, to begin our hike. We hiked for about an hour towards Pontresina and stopped at the Fuorcla Sutlej overlook. We had fine views of Piz Roseg and Bernini. We turned back towards Murtel and passed under the lift and continued on to the top of the Furtschellas lift. The entire time we were above the tree line with beautiful views of the lakes, valley, and mountains between Pontresina and Maloja. The entire hike was about 7.5 miles with mild up and down elevation changes. I would say a moderate hike, not too difficult but still 7.5 miles and some moderate climbs and descents. Well worth the effort.

    ** Day 7- There was rain and cloud cover forecast for most of the day and we were a little leg weary. So we decided on an easier hike down the Fex valley. We rode in a horse drawn carriage from our hotel down the valley past Crasta to Curtins(45 minutes). At Curtins we left the carriage and began our hike up the valley wall to the lookout at Marmore. A moderate climb perhaps 3-4 miles. From there it was a short descent back into Sils Maria. It should be noted despite the poor weather forecast we had many fine views of the beautiful Val Fex. See photos. And only a little rain at the very end. We were very glad we didn’t let the forecast scare us away from a very nice hike.

    **Day 8- Sadly our time of hiking was at an end. We took the 4 hr train ride to Zurich without incident. We planned for our last night in Switzerland to include dinner at Kronenhalle restaurant, a high end family run restaurant in old town (since 1924). Known for fine artwork and fine cuisine we thought it a fitting end to our stay in Switzerland.

    ** Day 9- However our flight was canceled just after midnight by United. Not to worry; we spent the afternoon wandering around old town with coffee outside by the river and dinner in a small cafe in Neiderdorfstrasse. My last taste of Wienerschnitzel.

    **Day 10- Home. (24 hrs to Tennessee )

    Some helpful hints that the moderators have mentioned before and I find them to be true as well.

    Public transport is the way to go. I used the SBB Mobile app daily. Transfer times may seem tight but are almost always doable. We made a 2 minute connection in Bern (yes I was nervous ). There is no reason not to pack light. All of us had a small backpack and 1 carry on size bag. Even nice restaurants are casual and it makes transport between trains much easier ( we did check 1 small foldable bag with just our hiking poles as you can’t bring them on the plane ). Make sure all the names on your tickets and passes and IDs match exactly.

    – It’s fine to take into account weather forecasts but I wouldn’t be too obsessed with them. 2 of our hikes were forecast to have rain and cloud cover but the cloud cover turned out to be intermittent and the rain either missed us or was after our hike. Actually the clouds often add depth and character to photos and we were glad we didn’t miss 2 days of hiking due to weather reports. The hikes turned out beautiful but we were prepared for rain.

    – The hikes will typically be listed by how long it takes not by distance or elevation change. The hiking times are generally pretty accurate except on those hikes with steep ascents or descents. On those it took us longer but we were in no hurry. The hiking times do not take into account time spent resting or taking photos. On scenic hikes that can add an hour or so.

    – Be aware of when the last cable car, bus, or train runs. You really don’t want to get stuck on top of First or Schynige Platte or Bussalp.

    Most of all, have fun! Enjoy! Mark. Looks like I will need to add more photos on another page

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    Mark
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    23 September 2022 at 0:16:56 #947238

    Having trouble downloading iPhone photos, most are about 2 Mb in size

    Mark
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    Mark
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    Anna
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    23 September 2022 at 4:40:23 #947241

    Hi Mark,

    This is super. Glad you had a good time in Switzerland.

    Thanks for sharing your travel experience and photos. These will definitely be helpful for our fellow travelers.

    Regards,

    Anna

    Janice3401
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    23 September 2022 at 5:11:56 #947242

    Hi Mark—Great trip report! I especially enjoyed all of your hiking descriptions. Beautiful photos too. Janice

    Danielsan
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    23 September 2022 at 10:09:36 #947243

    Hi Mark,

    Enjoyed reading your trip report and seeing your beautiful pictures. Very nice.

    Danielsan

    Mark
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    23 September 2022 at 11:40:36 #947244

    Hi Anna

    Somehow the photos of the First to Bussalp hike and the Mountain View trail hike were deleted (8 photos). I can add them or if you feel that is too many photo I will leave as is.

    Mark

    pkerr
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    23 September 2022 at 18:39:21 #947245

    WOW! WOW! WOW!

    Such a great TR. More pictures please!

    hockeyfan
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    23 September 2022 at 21:25:16 #947246

    Great report and beautiful photos. Thank you for sharing. I have wondered about the Waldhaus in Sils Maria. I have stayed at the Greenbrier once. I took my mothers for the weekend to celebrate her 80th birthday.

    Mark
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    23 September 2022 at 22:01:19 #947247

    here are the photos of the First to Bussalp hike. Found it to be very scenic, not too much elevation change, uncrowded, and at 7 miles a good distance for me.

    Also photos of the Mountain view trail from Grutschalp to Murren. A good example of nice views despite a bad weather forecast.

    Mark

    pkerr
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    24 September 2022 at 0:33:24 #947248

    DBL WOW!!!

    Arno
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    15482 posts
    24 September 2022 at 5:55:30 #947249

    Thank you for sharing your experiences Mark. Happy to hear you enjoyed your stay in Wengen and Sils. The Upper Engadine is a gem, and hiking there is fantastic.

    Your general tips about transportation and weather are very helpful. I agree with you that it’s not necessary to feel stressed about forecasts. Weather (and thus forecasts) can change quickly, for the better or worse. Many days for which rain is forecasted can turn out to be dry for long periods.

    I love your photos, each of them!

    Caroline679
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    24 September 2022 at 18:21:19 #947250

    Wonderful, wonderful, exquisite pictures. WOW, is right. These bring back terrific memories of each of those great hikes, which we’ve also loved. Thank you for rekindling cherished memories of this very special place on planet earth! We heartily agree with your apt trail descriptions and useful travel tips.

    Maloja_Snake
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    25 September 2022 at 8:52:59 #947251

    Hi Mark,

    Thanks for the trip report and photos. The Val Fex photo is from the same perspective as the one which is the home screen on my phone, and brings back wonderful memories of my 2018 and 2019 trips. I am curious of your experience of the Sils Waldhaus. Did you get half-board? And what did you think of the facilities?

    Thanks,

    Will

    PS My profile photo was taken from my room in the Waldhaus.

    Mark
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    25 September 2022 at 13:17:37 #947252

    Hi Will

    We thought the Waldhaus was first rate, the facilities have been well maintained. We were personally greeted by the family that manages the hotel on arrival and at dinner. The staff was helpful planning hikes and the shuttle service was readily available when needed. We did have half board and found the food to be very good. They have an al la carte option but it is quite expensive so we ate at the main dining room which was fully covered except for alcohol. The service was good as well. we had a room on the top floor with a beautiful view of the lake. See photo. Also enjoyed the barrage ride to Curtins to begin our hike to Marmore. See photo. All and all a great experience.

    Mark

    Lastlook
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    26 September 2022 at 23:50:00 #947253

    Thank you for your interesting trip report and beautiful photos. I’ve done some of those hikes myself in past years but in reverse in some cases – hiked from First to SP, and took the train down. Also hiked the Mountain View in reverse from Allmendhubel down to Grutschalp. Have enjoyed a couple of meals at Hotel Edelweiss in Murren, with the killer views of Lauterbrunnen Valley. So glad the weather turned out so well for you in spite of the forecast. I experienced a similar forecast for two weeks at the end of June/early July (showed thunderstorms/rain every day in the extended forecast), but we had great weather for the majority of the trip. Thanks again for sharing your hiking and hotel information, as well as your wonderful photos.

    Mark
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    27 September 2022 at 0:18:38 #947254

    Thanks Lastlook. I have been to Wengen several times but it was my first visit to Sils Maria (actually more properly called Sils Im Engadine) and we really didn’t know what to expect. We were very impressed with the Upper Engadine area for hiking and accommodations.

    Mark

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