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  • 13 August 2026 at 6:38:22 #2798313

    Hello Yup

    Get out a map of the Graubunden canton of Switzerland.

    Note that Switzerland has given almost all its trains route numbers! (Just like buses in cities!)  This system is very helpful.

    Going via Landquart

    Going from Bernina Diavolezza to Chur via LANDQUART there is only one possible itinerary.  Here is a specimen journey, on the assumption you are travelling in the next few weeks.

    12 34 RE9 train Diavolezza to Pontresina, arrive there 12 53.  (The RE9 will be going to St Moritz.)

    From Pontresina catch the 13 05 R15 (Rfifteen) train bound for Scuol-Tarasp, getting off at Saglians at 14 03.

    At Saglians you go straight across the platform and catch the 14 05 RE4 train to Landquart, arrive 15 10.

    From Landquart catch any train for the short ride to Chur. They are VERY frequent!

    It is more scenic via St Moritz and Filisur

    (WARNING There is a problem with this route today, 13 August.   Consult http://www.sbb.ch)

    For example, catch the 12 34 RE9 from Diavolezza to St Moritz, arrive there 13 11.

    The take the 14 05 IR38 train to Chur via Filisur.  The spectacular Landwasser viaduct comes just after Filisur.  Sit on the left hand side in the direction of travel.

    Best wishes

    Roger

    12 August 2026 at 9:30:48 #2798279

    Hello Miltiades

    First a polite request.  Do not write your contributions to this forum in block capitals.  Sentences written all in block capitals are difficult (and tiring) to read.

    Wednesday 19th August

    I am assuming that you are still resident in Cyprus.  While Cyprus is in the EU, it is not in ‘Schengenland’.  Switzerland is not in the EU but is in Schengenland!  It follows that on arrival at Zurich airport you will have to go through the European Entry and Exit system ‘EES’ and there may be delays.

    If you really want to travel to St Moritz on the first available service then you will need a full price ticket – 84 CHF   http://www.sbb.ch is telling me that the current price of Saver Day Pass Tickets. Is 106 CHF, so that is not a sensible option.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/saver-day-pass/

    If you want to buy a point-to-point Supersaver ticket you will have to allow yourself a considerable ‘safety margin’ for delays.  I would suggest three hours.  The SBB timetable is quoting me 56.40 CHF if you leave Zurich Airport at 18 15.  You would reach St Moritz at 21 58.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/supersaver-ticket/

    Saturday 22nd  August

    Unfortunately you do not indicate the time of your flight out of Zurich.  I would again give yourself a ‘safety margin’ of three hours.  For the moment I am assuming that your flight is at about 18 00 or later.

    Consulting http://www.sbb.ch, if you left St Moritz on the 11 05 IR38 train and changed (in the usual way) at Chur and Zurich Hauptbahnhof, you would reach Zurich airport at 14 44 with plenty of time to go through the necessary procedures.

    An ordinary full price ticket is of course 84 CHF.  A supersaver ticket is (currently) 65.40 CHF and a Saver Day Pass is 106 CHF.

    A Saver Day Pass would be the right choice if you have got the whole day at your disposal and you want to make the detour via Lucerne (called Luzern in German).

    Best wishes

    Roger

    11 August 2026 at 14:23:06 #2798256

    Hello  again G Anna
    Welcome back!

    I am not qualified to advise on hiking possibilities around Davos.  I hope others will help. (Note that in October, some of the cable cars will not be operating.)

    Regarding excursions, Davos is in the centre of Switzerland’s largest canton, Graubunden, and some spectacular excursions are possible by both bus and train. On this website, go to the ‘train passes’ section and research the Graubunden Pass.  I think you should seriously consider investing in the ‘both zones’ version of this pass.  I would stress that this pass is valid on BUSES and trains.

    The jewel in the crown is probably the ride to St Moritz by train, changing at Filsur;  you can then continue to Tirano using the sensational Bernina line.

    For a very exciting bus ride first go to Zernez via Klosters by train.  Then catch the 811 bus over the Ofen Pass to Mals.  Like Tirano, Mals is just across the boarder with Italy.
    Another exciting bus ride is to to go Chur via Lenzerheide..  There is also an occasional bus service to Susch, over the Fluela Pass, but that only runs until 25th October.

    Best wishes for your detailed planning.

    Roger

    11 August 2026 at 7:05:24 #2798231

    Hello again Komal

    Thank you for your kind words in your reply three.

    In my reply two to the thread started by Dixies Family I did indeed write
    I am praying those dates are NOT at the end of September!)

    The reason I wrote that comment has nothing to do with Switzerland.

    If you look first at the Dixies Family’s ‘thread’ you will see that it includes two nights in MUNICH.   And in the journey from Wengen to Fussen (in southern Bavaria) discussed in my reply two, one leg of the journey, that from Zurich to Buchloe, will be on a very busy Zurich to Munich Eurocity train.

    The explanation for my comment is the misnamed Munich ‘OKTOBERFEST’

    This is a huge beer festival which takes place every year in Munich at the end of September.  Great for beer lovers….  But for everybody else….

    Kind regards

    Roger

    10 August 2026 at 8:22:52 #2798214

    Hello again Komal

    1. Bernina Express: I’ll be traveling from Lugano to Tirano to Thusis and have already made a 1st Class seat reservation for the train portion. I plan to purchase the route-specific point-to-point Class Upgrade later. Do I need to purchase the upgrade for my son as well, or only for the adults?

    You will need three seat reservations on the Lugano to Tirano Bernina Express BUS.  Recent contributions to this forum suggest that the bus can get fully booked.   So, if you have not already done so, make those bus reservations as soon as possible.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/bernina-express/

    On the Bernina Express TRAIN you will of course need three first class seat reservations,  But while your son does need a seat reservation, for him you do not need to pay for an ‘upgrade’

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel/train/classes/

    2    Bern to Locarno via Domodossola: We’ll be traveling from Bern to Locarno via Domodossola on September 27. Do we need a reservation for the Domodossola–Locarno section?
    September 27 is a Sunday.  Seat reservation is not compulsory for the Domodossola to Locarno section.  BUT the train is likely to be very busy, so I would strongly recommend seat reservations.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/centovalli-railway/

    3   Zurich Airport & EES: What has been the recent experience at Zurich Airport for entering and exiting Switzerland under the new EES system? Is there any indication of how long the process is currently taking for first-time travelers from North America?
    I am British resident in England.  Rather surprisingly there has been not much recent discussion in this forum about EES.

    I arrived at Zurich Airport from London at about 15 00 on Thursday June 18.  (Passengers on all flights from outside ‘Schengen’  go to the same  ‘Arrivals Two’ area so it is immaterial that you are from North America and I am from Britain.)

    Now, unlike a previous experience on December 22nd 2025, there was a large but well organised crowd waiting to be processed.  There was a ‘marshall’ organising the queues

    Unlike what MAY be happening elsewhere, there was no automated ‘do-it-yourself’ system.  There were about ten staffed  booths which each had their own separate queue.  The staff (in Zurich police uniforms)  were polite, efficient and very thorough.  Unfortunately I was allocated to a slow moving queue, and it was just over 30 minutes before I was processed.  I had a brand new passport and I was processed in just over a minute.

    I left on June 30th, going through passport control at about 07 30 for a flight due to take off at 10 05.  There was no queue.  I was processed in less than a minute.

    My passport was not stamped in either direction.

    Best wishes

    Roger

    8 August 2026 at 20:00:13 #2798207

    Hello Daisy

    Welcome to MySwissAlps.

    What (electronic) timetables have you been looking at?  What days have you been inserting as your travel days?

    European PUBLIC TRANSPORT timetables will change on the weekend of 13th/14th December.  So any times which are valid today may not be valid when you are travelling (around christmas).

    Out of interest I went into the http://www.sbb.ch electronic PUBLIC TRANSPORT  timetable, and keyed in an imaginary journey on 10 December leaving Innsbruck at 09 00 bound for St Moritz.  It gave the following result.   But first get out a very good map which shows western Austrian and eastern Switzerland.

    http://www.sbb.ch told me to leave Innsbruck at 09 22 on an RE1 train bound for Landeck-Zams, arriving there at 10 24.

    It then said catch the 10 45 number 273 bus (bound for Mals) to Pfunds Kajetansbrücke, a rather remote stop which is to the west of the main village.  You get to the stop at 11 20.

    Catch the 11 40 921 bus (bound for Ftan) getting off at Scuol-Tarasp station at 12 27.  Take the very short walk to platform one, and catch the waiting R15 train leaving at 12 33 for Pontresina.  You get off at Samedan at 13 43.

    Straight across the platform will be the 13 48 IR38 train to St Moritz, arrive 13 55.  Now I was delighted with this result.  But as you will see from the map, this routing is very direct! Indeed it follows the valley of the river INN the whole way!

    I would add that I have been travelling in the Alps for 55 years!  In August 1975 I travelled from Landeck to Scoul-Tarsap by bus = it was very slow and indirect but I did not have to change.

    In May 2023 I travelled from Mals to Landeck on bus route 273.  (Amazingly, the Swiss Travel Pass is valid on this route.)

    For the moment I am going to leave matters there.

    Best wishes for your detailed planning.

    Roger

    7 August 2026 at 6:41:19 #2798194

    Hello again

    First note that the train you will be travelling on is an Austrian train, called a ‘RailJet Express’.  But Swiss tickets such as Saver Day Passes are valid on it for the Zurich to St Gallen section of your journey.  It follows that you only need a travel ticket St Gallen to Salzburg.

    As the train is Austrian, I would use the OBB website.
    Seat Reservation.  The RJX train is likely to be very busy the whole way.  (The RJX train also serves Innsbruck, Linz and Vienna!)  Try and get a reservation (separate from your travel ticket) Zurich to Salzburg .
    If the OBB website does not allow you to do this, get a reservation St Gallen to Salzburg.  Just be on the platform at Zurich some minutes before 10 34 or 14 34 to grab the allocated seat for the first part of your journey!  (The electronic display system will say that the seat is reserved St Gallen to Salzburg.)

    Best wishes
    Roger

    6 August 2026 at 22:15:55 #2798191

    Hello again Brad

    . Now I need help navigating what direction to go because I have been informed that there is train construction going on at the border of Austria after Buchs. This gives me a little anxiety. Could you please advise if this is true and how I should plan the best route that day?  Thank you so much for your help!

    Get out a good map.

    For the next few months, the Austrian operated line from Buchs to Feldkirch is closed for engineering work.

    Direct trains from Zurich to Salzburg will leave at 10 32 and 14 32.  But they will go via St Gallen and Dornbirn, reaching the normal route at Feldkirch.  They reach Salzburg at 17 02 and 21 04 respectively.

    For the 10 32 departure you will need to leave Wengen at 07 13. Changing at Lauterbrunnen and Interlaken Ost you get to Zurich at 09 58.

    For the 14 32 departure you will need to leave Wengen at 11 11.  Changing at Lauterbrunnen and Interlaken Ost you get to Zurich at 13 58.

    Whichever departure you choose you A SEAT RESERVATION WILL BE ESSENTIAL from Zurich to Salzburg.   I would get this reservation as soon as you can.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-guide/austria-switzerland/

    On the 10 32 or 14 32 your Saver Day Pass will be valid only to SAINT GALLEN.  You will need separate travel tickets St Gallen to Salzburg via Feldkirch and Innsbruck.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/details/saver-day-pass-validity/

    Best wishes

    Roger

    4 August 2026 at 15:58:42 #2798162

    Hello Gary

    I would strongly support  Arno’s and Dave’s recommendation to invest in Berner Oberland Passes.  (Note that the abbreviation is ‘BOP’).

    Just one small correction to what Gary says.  The BOP is NOT valid to Lausanne.  But it is valid to nearby Montreux provided you travel on the (highly scenic) route via Zweisimmen.
    Best wishes
    Roger

    29 July 2026 at 6:17:42 #2798104

    Hello again Hopper

    I deduce that your enquiry in this new reply 5 relates to your Wengen to Milan journey on Friday 4th September..

    This takes me right bsck to my reply TWO to your earlier thread.

    Now you could reserve seats on the 09 04 Interlaken to Luzern train.  But trying to reserve two seats you want (on the right hand side in the direction of travel on leaving Interlaken) may be difficult.

    ‘Grabbing’ the desired seats.

    Leave Wengen 30 minutes earlier than I suggested in my reply two to your previous thread.  If you leave Wengen at 07 42 (not 08 12)  you will get to Interlaken Ost at 08 24.

    Be ready on the platform FOUR at Interlaken Ost by 08 50.  Wait some way along the platform in the direction the train will leave.  The train from Luzern should arrive at 08 54.  (They always use platform four.)

    Grab two unreserved seats on the right hand side of the train in the direction of travel.   (Remember that the train ‘turns round’ at Interlaken.   It will come in from the East, and it will leave in an easterly direction.)

    Kind regards

    Roger

    28 July 2026 at 18:22:19 #2798102

    Hello again Sip

    First note that my understanding is that your trip is 3rd to 19th Sep.  That is seventeen days.

    I do need to make some amendments to the times I gave for the 11th and 19th September.

    Unfortunately, in mid-September, some train times have changed, seemingly because of railway engineering work: https://www.myswissalps.com/travel/train/timetable/

    Friday September 11th

    Still catch the 08 14 from Kandersteg to Spiez.

    You will now have a fifty minute wait at Spiez.  (There is a very pleasant view from the station over Lake Thun!)  Catch 09 35 fast train to Interlaken Ost, arrive 09 59.  The 10 04 train to Lucerne will be waiting the other side of the platform.

    Saturday  19  September with your flight out at 09 50

    Now the route via Gossau is not available early on the Saturday morning.   So you will have to leave very early and go via St Gallen

    Leave Appenzell at 05 12.  On arrival at St Gallen change to the 05 58 train towards Zurich, (and Lausanne) arriving Zurich Airport at 06 47.

    On arrival at Appenzell on Monday, go to the station office and;

    Double check the times of the early morning trains on the Saturday. AND

    Get any necessary tickets for your journey to Zurich Airport.  (Remember that you will only have the Appenzell Card ; your fifteen day Swiss Travel Passes will have expired.)

    Kind regards
    Roger

    25 July 2026 at 8:22:33 #2798051

    Hello again Paule

    On the assumption that you buy Half Fare Cards and Berner Oberland Passes, proceed as follows

    Saturday 19th September, Como to Lucerne.

    Get Italian tickets for the four kilometres Como to Chiasso.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-guide/italy-switzerland/#tickets

    Use your Half Fare Cards to buy tickets from Chiasso to Lucerne via Locarno and Airolo.  (Airolo is a town on the scenic old Gotthard railway line.)

    20th and 21st September

    I believe the hotel in Lucerne will provide us with a pass for that region but I’ll need to clarify exactly what is included.

    You are thinking of the Lucerne Visitors Card, sometimes referred to as the Guest Card.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/town/lucerne/#travel

    The coverage of this card is limited.  It gives you free travel on the (very good) local bus system and (I think) free (or discounted) entry to some museums.  It is NOT VALID on the mountain lines or the lake boats.

    Lake Lucerne  rivals Lake Como for the title of the most beautiful lake in the Alps.

    On Monday 21st (on Sunday the boats will be extremely busy with local people) use your Half Fare Cards to buy an all-day ticket (‘Tageskarte’) on the Lake Lucerne boats.  With the HFC the cost will be 43 CHF for each person (second class).

    22nd September Lucerne to Wengen.

    Buy 6-day BOPS commencing on 22nd.  Use the BOPS to go from Lucerne to Wengen, changing at Interlaken Ost and Lauterbrunnen.

    23rd to 27th September.  Squeeze as much as you can from the validity area of your BOPS.  If the weather is bad take a trip to Bern.

    If you fancy a long day excursion go to Montruex via Zweisimmen.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/goldenpass/

    When you go to Grindelwald, go via Männlichen (or Zweilűtschinen) (free with BOP), not via Kleine Scheidegg.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/mannlichen/

    At Grindelwald go up to Pfingstegg (free with BOP), but not to First.\

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/pfingstegg/

    28th September

    Use your HFCs to buy tickets from Wengen to Domodossola via Lauterbrunnen, Interlaken Ost, Spiez, KANDERSTEG and Brig.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/lotschberg-mountain-railway/

    When you get to Spiez be very careful to get on the correct train.  Avoid like the plague the InterCity and Eurocity trains bound for Visp, Brig or Milan.  These fast trains go through the Lőtschberg base tunnel.  The journey is fast, but mostly in total darkness!

    Catch the RE1 train which goes the scenic route via Kandersteg.  If you left Wengen at 10 41 you will reach Spies at 11 48.  The 12 12 RE1 runs via Kandersteg and Brig through to Domodossola, arriving there at 13 53.

    Are you spending some time in Domodossola?

    If yes, take a day excursion to Locarno using the highly scenic railway I mentioned at the end of my reply four.  Your HFCs will give a substantial discount, even though this line is about 60% in Italy!

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/centovalli-railway/

    Best wishes for your detailed planning.

    Roger

    24 July 2026 at 18:27:43 #2798049

    Hello Edgar

    Welcome to MySwissAlps

    Thank you for sharing your travel plans with us.

    Get out a good map of Switzerland.

    Could you pls guide us if these base cities are alright and in this order? Or what changes need to be done ?

    Assuming that you are flying in and out of Geneva, and ignoring your reference to the Glacier Express, the sequence of resorts does make sense.  HOWEVER.

    Just Pick One Resort in the Berner Oberland

    You are planning to say in Műrren, Lauterbrunnen and Interlaken.  You want to visit lakes Thun, Brienz, Schynige Platte, Brienzer Rothorn, Harder kulm, Lauterbrunnen ValleyMurren, Gimmelwald,  Schilthorn, hiking, Wengen, Männlichen, winteregg, Grindelwald

    As you will see from the map, all these places are close together. So just stay in one town/village for a week, and consider investing in a Berner Oberland Pass.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/region/bernese-oberland/
    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/berner-oberland-pass/

    Certainly Consider Investing in a Swiss Travel Pass

    Stilll ignoring your reference to the Glacier Express, your plans do involve quite a lot of travel within western and central Switzerland.  You should therefore consider investing in Swiss Travel Passes.

    The Swiss Travel Pass gives you the freedom of the world’s best public transport system.  Buses, trams/streetcars, boats and trains.  The only lines/routes excluded are those which simply go up mountains.

    However, by way of exception to what I have just said, in the Lucerne area the STP is valid on some mountain lines, notably those up Rigi and Stanserhorn.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/swiss-travel-pass/

    Zermatt and Glacier Express.

    Now you and your sister need to have the Swiss Map right in front of you.

    You will see that Zermatt is in the very south of Switzerland; almost directly due south from the Berner Oberland area around Interlaken.

    The Glacier Express is a luxury train which runs from Zermatt to St Moritz via Visp, Brig, Oberwald, Andermatt, Disentis, Chur and Filisur.   This is a long slow journey which takes nearly eight hours.

    In addition to the normal fare you will have to pay a hefty. reservation fee.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/glacier-express/

    St Moritz is way down in the south-east corner of Switzerland.  It does not fit into the rest of your itinerary.  Going only Zermatt to Andermatt is not value for money.  The best scenery is East of Andermatt.  The iconic curved Landwasser viaduct you see in countless adverts is about one hour before you reach St Moritz.

    Best wishes for your detailed planning

    Roger

    24 July 2026 at 17:05:47 #2798048

    Hello Paule

    Get out a good map of Switzerland.

    Como to Lucerne on 19th September

    Catch the ‘TILO’ train which leaves Como at 23 minutes past each hour bound for LOCARNO.  Except for the first four kilometres this trip is entirely within Switzerland.   The train takes 75 minutes to get to Locarno.

    From Locarno catch the ‘Treno Gottardo’ to Lucerne.  This train takes the highly scenic OLD Gotthard main line via Airolo.

    Do NOT take the fast Intercity or Eurocity trains.  These trains go through the Gotthard Base Tunnel, the longest railway tunnel in the world – 35 miles of total darkness.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-guide/italy-switzerland/
    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/gotthard-panorama-express/#directions

    Choice of Public Transport Pass(es)

    (All Swiss Transport passes are multi-modal  They are not confined to trains.)

    I am afraid I am going to complicate matters.  I can now only ask questions – at this stage I cannot give answers.

    Have You  Considered Investing in Swiss Travel Passes?

    You certainly need to consider the STP.  It gives you the freedom of the world’s best public transport system.  The only lines/routes excluded are those which simply go up mountains.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/swiss-travel-pass/

    By way of exception to what I have just said, two important mountain lines in the Lucerne area are free with the STP.  Those up Rigi and Stanserhorn.

    STP gives free rides on all the lake boats.  I am of similar age to your husband, and I find one of the best ways of enjoying mountain scenery is from a lake boat.  Both Lakes Brienz and Lucerne are stunningly beautiful.

    If the weather turns nasty you can go on a longer day excursion to places like Zurich, Bern Lausannne or even Geneva, at no extra cost.

    The STP gives free entry to a large number of museums.  Again, useful in bad weather.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/details/swiss-travel-pass-validity/

    Have you Considered the Berner Oberland Pass?

    Now the excursions you number one to four in your thread are all of them free with the BOP.   Schilthororn is NOT free with the Jungfrau Travel Pass.  You only get a discount, which I believe is (this year) only 25%.

    Are you considerering going up Jungfraujoch, Grindelwald First, Harder Kulm?

    If the answer is ‘yes’ for at least two of these mountains, then certainly invest in a Jungfrau Travel Pass, and do so even if you also invest in an STP.

    Where are you going after Domodossola?

    If the answer is ‘Milan’, then take the highly scenic train from Domodossola to Locarno (STP valid on this line). And then a Tilo train on to Milan.  (STP valid up to the frontier station of Chiasso.)

    Best wishes for your delibrerations.

    Roger

    24 July 2026 at 15:27:13 #2798037

    Hello again

    could we also go to Stanserhorn [as was suggested by Anna], but a little later for the candlelight dinner?

    The short answer is YES!  Both timetables I have consulted simply shows that on Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings in high summer there is a regular evening service up the Stanserhorn.  There is no mention of special tickets being needed.

    It follows that this evening service can be used by holders of ‘ordinary’ tickets such as Saver Day Passes, Swiss Travel Passes and Lucerne Travel Passes.  It also follows that you do not have to pay for the dinner if you simply want to go for a hike or watch the sun setting over Lake Lucerne!

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/stanserhorn/

    Burgenstock

    In her reply one Anna also mentioned this (relatively low) mountain which sticks out into the lake.  You might be able to squeeze in Burgenstock between the Rigi and the Stanserhorn.  But note carefully that while the Saver Day Pass is valid on the bus from Stansstad, it is not valid on the funicular up from the pier at Kehrsiten.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/burgenstock/

    Kind regards
    Roger

    Roger Sexton
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    22 July 2026 at 22:29:26 #2798024

    Thank you very much for this very detailed report.   You certainly did the right thing to break the journey at St Moritz and then at Alp Grum.

    I am glad that the whole family enjoyed the trip.  In particular, I am not surprised that your girls said that it was the best day of a five-week vacation!
    Kind regards
    Roger

    21 July 2026 at 20:28:25 #2798014

    Hello again.

    Suggested itinerary for September 2nd.

    07 28 train from Műrren to Grűtschalp.

    07 43 cable car down to Lauterbrunnen

    08 01 train to Interlaken Ost, arrive 08 24.

    09 07 boat to Brienz, arrive 10 20.

    10 37 train from Brienz to Interlaken Ost arrive 10 54.

    11 07 Golden Pass Express Train to Montreux, arrive 14 25.

    This train will be VERY BUSY.  Seat reservations essential. Go to https://www.gpx.swiss

    There are local trains (bound for ‘Grandson’) from Montreux to Lutry at 14 30 and 15 01.  They take 27 minutes to get to Lutry..

    Perhaps then park your luggage at your accommodation.  Then go on to Lausanne or perhaps even Geneva.

    Or go exploring the Lavaux Vineyards.

    Kind regards

    Roger

    20 July 2026 at 21:07:50 #2798006

    Sorry Kim

    In my reply 4 I think I got rather confused with your travel plans.

    I now think that you are intending to use your second Saver Day Pass to travel from MURREN (not Lucerne) to Lutry.

    If that is the case, then note that there is also a through train from Interlaken Ost to Montreux at 09 07.  Again, this train is going to be very busy so reservation is essential.

    If you are travelling from MURREN, then my final paragraph of reply 4 is clearly irrelevant.

    Kind regrads
    Roger

    20 July 2026 at 19:49:08 #2798005

    Hello Kristy

    Welcome to MySwissAlps

    Get out a good map of Switzerland.

    Your itinerary is very interesting!  But please can you confirm one matter.  You are talking about 2027-fourteen months time.

    Get out a good map of Switzerland

    You are proposing a lot of moving form resort to resort.  I do not think that is a good idea. There is also a problem with Murren.

    On the 4th September it appears that you are planning a day excursion from Murren to Gstaad.  The journey will take just over three hours going, and just over three hours coming back….

    I would suggest that for your stays in the Berner Oberland you stay in either Thun or Spiez.  Both of these towns are very good transport nodes.  (In marked contrast to Murren and Kandersteg.)

    https://www.myswissalps.com/town/murren/
    https://www.myswissalps.com/town/thun/

    Another point you need to consider is what Public Transport Passes you should invest in.  I would suggest a 15-day Swiss Travel Pass followed by an 8-day Swiss Travel Pass.  (On 22nd September just buy local Zurich  tickets.)

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel-ticket/swiss-travel-pass/
    https://www.myswissalps.com/town/zurich/#travel

    Best wishes for your detailed planning.

    Roger

    20 July 2026 at 18:47:44 #2798004

    Hello again

    I should’ve been more clear about the second saver day pass as we move from Murren to Lutry.

    This does make a huge difference.  I would now suggest that you do use the Golden Pass route via Interlaken, Spiez, Zweisimmen and Montreux.  My concerns are (1) getting seats on busy trains (2) LUGGAGE when you do need to change trains.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/travel/train/luggage/

    Unfortunately you do not give us the date you are travelling from Lucerne to Lutry.  However, there are usually through trains from Interlaken Ost to Montreux at 11 07 and 14 07.  These through trains are always VERY busy.  So seat reservations are essential.

    https://www.myswissalps.com/activity/goldenpass/#price

    Alternatively, take the IR15 train from Lucerne to LAUSANNE, then a local RER train to Lutry.  Park your luggage at you accommodation and spend the rest of you day exploring the area along the north shore of Lake Geneva.  (Your SDPs are valid on the lake boats – even on those which go across to France.)

    https://www.myswissalps.com/details/saver-day-pass-validity/

    Kind regards
    Roger

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